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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

      Backup the data to CrashPlanPro or BackBlaze.

      Can't - the not so silent, silent partner refuses to allow them to use a cloud backup service. Hell, they won't even allow the company to do a backup over a VPN to another location.

      You have no need to backup the VM itself. Data changes little daily.

      This doesn't backup the AD. Granted it's a small office of 12 PCs so it wouldn't take that long to rebuild user/computer accounts.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

        Can't - the not so silent, silent partner refuses to allow them to use a cloud backup service. Hell, they won't even allow the company to do a backup over a VPN to another location.

        Then you are done. Seriously. Just buy them a server and make them spend the money. If they want to not listen, then give them what they want. Fighting things like this is not your job.

        This doesn't backup the AD. Granted it's a small office of 12 PCs so it wouldn't take that long to rebuild user/computer accounts.

        And is exactly my point. Because if you need more than just a file recovery from offsite backup, you are into a full DR and rebuilding a 12 person AD from scratch is way faster than restoring from offsite.

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

          @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:
          Can't - the not so silent, silent partner refuses to allow them to use a cloud backup service. Hell, they won't even allow the company to do a backup over a VPN to another location.

          This is very common in healthcare actually

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @wirestyle22
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            @wirestyle22 said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

            @JaredBusch said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

            @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:
            Can't - the not so silent, silent partner refuses to allow them to use a cloud backup service. Hell, they won't even allow the company to do a backup over a VPN to another location.

            This is very common in healthcare actually

            Still does not mean it is right, nor does it mean that it is the problem of anyone in IT. Send confirmation of intent email and ignore. Because the business has decided what to do.

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

              @wirestyle22 said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

              @JaredBusch said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

              @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:
              Can't - the not so silent, silent partner refuses to allow them to use a cloud backup service. Hell, they won't even allow the company to do a backup over a VPN to another location.

              This is very common in healthcare actually

              Still does not mean it is right, nor does it mean that it is the problem of anyone in IT. Send confirmation of intent email and ignore. Because the business has decided what to do.

              Agreed

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                Can't - the not so silent, silent partner refuses to allow them to use a cloud backup service. Hell, they won't even allow the company to do a backup over a VPN to another location.

                Then you are done. Seriously. Just buy them a server and make them spend the money. If they want to not listen, then give them what they want. Fighting things like this is not your job.

                I'm not trying to fight this. This is why they have Veeam backing up to one of 5 NAS units, and they take the previous day's home every night.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                  This doesn't backup the AD. Granted it's a small office of 12 PCs so it wouldn't take that long to rebuild user/computer accounts.

                  And is exactly my point. Because if you need more than just a file recovery from offsite backup, you are into a full DR and rebuilding a 12 person AD from scratch is way faster than restoring from offsite.

                  Sure, it would be faster than rebuilding from an offsite/cloud backup - but that's not what I have, we have onsite NAS backup, so that should be pretty fast.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @wirestyle22
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                    @wirestyle22 said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                    @JaredBusch said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                    @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:
                    Can't - the not so silent, silent partner refuses to allow them to use a cloud backup service. Hell, they won't even allow the company to do a backup over a VPN to another location.

                    This is very common in healthcare actually

                    This client is not healthcare - just crazy.

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                      @wirestyle22 said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                      @JaredBusch said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                      @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:
                      Can't - the not so silent, silent partner refuses to allow them to use a cloud backup service. Hell, they won't even allow the company to do a backup over a VPN to another location.

                      This is very common in healthcare actually

                      This client is not healthcare - just crazy.

                      Everyone's favourite type of client

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                        @wirestyle22 said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                        @JaredBusch said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                        @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:
                        Can't - the not so silent, silent partner refuses to allow them to use a cloud backup service. Hell, they won't even allow the company to do a backup over a VPN to another location.

                        This is very common in healthcare actually

                        Still does not mean it is right, nor does it mean that it is the problem of anyone in IT. Send confirmation of intent email and ignore. Because the business has decided what to do.

                        Hey I got to bill for an extra 10 hours building some crazy solution because of what they wanted.. so I'm fine.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                          Can't - the not so silent, silent partner refuses to allow them to use a cloud backup service.

                          No problem, just explain that it's not cloud at all, just hosted.

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                            @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                            Can't - the not so silent, silent partner refuses to allow them to use a cloud backup service.

                            No problem, just explain that it's not cloud at all, just hosted.

                            I lol'd

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                              @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                              Can't - the not so silent, silent partner refuses to allow them to use a cloud backup service.

                              No problem, just explain that it's not cloud at all, just hosted.

                              the problem is - someone else is managing it - at least that what I think the problem is.. I get it entirely 3rd hand.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                                @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                                Can't - the not so silent, silent partner refuses to allow them to use a cloud backup service.

                                No problem, just explain that it's not cloud at all, just hosted.

                                the problem is - someone else is managing it - at least that what I think the problem is.. I get it entirely 3rd hand.

                                Hmmmm..... aren't YOU someone else?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                                  @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                                  Can't - the not so silent, silent partner refuses to allow them to use a cloud backup service.

                                  No problem, just explain that it's not cloud at all, just hosted.

                                  the problem is - someone else is managing it - at least that what I think the problem is.. I get it entirely 3rd hand.

                                  http://www.smbitjournal.com/2017/03/all-it-is-external/

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                                    @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                                    @Dashrender said in What to do when server warranties become expensive?:

                                    Can't - the not so silent, silent partner refuses to allow them to use a cloud backup service.

                                    No problem, just explain that it's not cloud at all, just hosted.

                                    the problem is - someone else is managing it - at least that what I think the problem is.. I get it entirely 3rd hand.

                                    Hmmmm..... aren't YOU someone else?

                                    lol funny how that works, right?
                                    /sigh

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