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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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      @ajstringham said:

      Google has it included, and they use IMAP, or optionally POP. Granted, I know an @gmail address isn't for business but maybe it was Google Apps or something.

      Google using IMAP is like saying that Exchange uses IMAP. All commercial email solutions use IMAP, it is the lowest common denominator for serious email. Whether you use the top end commercial email systems, hosted, on premise, open source, proprietary, doesn't matter. IMAP is ubiquitous. Even the rock bottom bare systems with no interface (Sendmail + Cyrus) provide IMAP.

      What makes Google and Exchange special is that IMAP is a fallback, not their primary mechanism. Even Zimbra doesn't use it as the primary. Nor does Rackspace (they use ActiveSync.)

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      • ?
        A Former User @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller Same with Zoho Email it uses ActiveSync as well.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @A Former User
          last edited by

          @thecreativeone91 said:

          @scottalanmiller Same with Zoho Email it uses ActiveSync as well.

          That's becoming pretty standard these days. So many services uses it for the clients, like Outlook.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            I didn't know that Google used ActiveSync.

            As for Rackspace using it - yeah they do, but they charge you for that type of access, it's not in their baseline package.

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              A Former User @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender It's in their baseline for Exchange ;). Rackspace email is good if you have managment that needs exchange and a bunch of workers that just need pop/imap or web mail as you can save money with their hybrid system.

              Rackspace is generally one of the more expensive hosts for most things though.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                I didn't know that Google used ActiveSync.

                As for Rackspace using it - yeah they do, but they charge you for that type of access, it's not in their baseline package.

                True but it is super cheap.

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                • thanksajdotcomT
                  thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  I didn't know that Google used ActiveSync.

                  As for Rackspace using it - yeah they do, but they charge you for that type of access, it's not in their baseline package.

                  True but it is super cheap.

                  Yeah, it's $2/month vs. $1/month. Not exactly breaking the bank.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    That is a 100% increase though. Double the cost of the service per user.

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                    • Reid CooperR
                      Reid Cooper
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                      Double the cost is definitely significant.

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said:

                        That is a 100% increase though. Double the cost of the service per user.

                        Yes, but not all users need ActiveSync. Usually only managers and above, and users that travel. So you can say that 60-70% of most people in a business don't need it. That'd be a pretty fair statement.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          That's true, it's case by case. And the $1 price is just SW / ML pricing. Normal customers are $2. So the ActiveSync is only a 50% premium in those cases.

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                          • gjacobseG
                            gjacobse
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                            Rant Part Two:

                            When I started this new job, I knew we had 8or 9 servers (only 1 real server); almost 300 users across more than 9 counties. I had an office with a window and a storage room.

                            I was moved to a different office but kept my storage room... until they needed it for two new employees,.. so my office got some, and..what do you mean there is more computer stuff in the next room....

                            So much of the main crap went into the other room and part in my office...

                            Now - I've lost my limited about of storage to Fiscal files. The bulk of it is now under my desk, stacked to the ceiling.

                            If I should stop contributing - you might call the office to see if I've been crushed by it all... What's the line from 'Major Tom'?

                            "Tell my wife I love her,...."

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                            • Reid CooperR
                              Reid Cooper
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                              I hate it when offices slowly diminish over time.

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