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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      http://www.bbc.com/future/slideshow-gallery/20170224-the-eerie-cities-where-nobody-lives

      it's nearly impossible for me to imagine this. The government I guess just owns everything, so they can just spend without concern in the hopes that their spending will ultimately create economic growth...

      You word that in a very strange way. It's simply called "investing."

      I suppose when you own everything, it is a form of investing. It's just so foreign to what I think is the US way of doing things... the US government doesn't own much, I know there is HUD housing, etc, but it's impossible for me to think that the US Gov could/would invest in building a whole city.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        I suppose when you own everything, it is a form of investing.

        What does "owning everything" have to do with it? And why do you imply that? China is very capitalistic, there is no "they own everything" at any level of the Chinese system.

        It's a form of investing, plain and simple. The US does it every day.

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          Its the little things. Home Lab. 6 in R10 ESXi Datastore, to a physical on mirror SSD. Same Procurve switch. I know it could be better, but its lab.
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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            ... the US government doesn't own much, I know there is HUD housing, etc, but it's impossible for me to think that the US Gov could/would invest in building a whole city.

            Doesn't it? It owns a LOT. And you don't think the US has built whole cities? Ever looked at some big artificial cities like Phoenix?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              ... but it's impossible for me to think that the US Gov could/would invest in building a whole city.

              Washington, DC?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                US has about 20 cities like this planned to be built currently.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  US has about 20 cities like this planned to be built currently.

                  OH? List? citations?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    US has about 20 cities like this planned to be built currently.

                    OH? List? citations?

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_planned_cities#United_States

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      I know there is HUD housing, etc, but it's impossible for me to think that the US Gov could/would invest in building a whole city.

                      HUD alone has helped to make nearly twenty of these just in our lifetime.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Even three secret ones in the 1940s.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          In the US the government roles are split up. In China building a planned city is most likely going to be overseen by the central government. In the US it is more likely to be overseen by a state. But the Fed does this as well. And, of course, in both private ones happen, too.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
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                            Digging into this issue more (with @Dashrender), a few things we're considering:

                            • Did I upgrade from Windows 7 to 10 (IDK)
                            • Do I have the media he has (appears so, but we're working on confirming this)

                            He hasn't removed anything from Windows 10 on his image, and his boots fine. So it must be something with the way this is configured.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              Digging into this issue more (with @Dashrender), a few things we're considering:

                              • Did I upgrade from Windows 7 to 10 (IDK)
                              • Do I have the media he has (appears so, but we're working on confirming this)

                              He hasn't removed anything from Windows 10 on his image, and his boots fine. So it must be something with the way this is configured.

                              Correction, I've created sysprep'ed images from 1507 and 1511 and deployed them with no issues that Dustin has (so has JB). I don't believe I have done this yet with AU (1607).

                              I'm currently building a new install just to test this.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                http://www.bbc.com/future/slideshow-gallery/20170224-the-eerie-cities-where-nobody-lives

                                it's nearly impossible for me to imagine this. The government I guess just owns everything, so they can just spend without concern in the hopes that their spending will ultimately create economic growth...

                                You word that in a very strange way. It's simply called "investing."

                                I suppose when you own everything, it is a form of investing. It's just so foreign to what I think is the US way of doing things... the US government doesn't own much, I know there is HUD housing, etc, but it's impossible for me to think that the US Gov could/would invest in building a whole city.

                                I'm not following? Many of these "ghost" cities were built from international loans. One of the big issues that China is running/ran into is that banks, and some nations, aren't willing to continue loaning money for these cities. A lot of them aren't complete yet and without external funding they will probably remain that way.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  US has about 20 cities like this planned to be built currently.

                                  OH? List? citations?

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_planned_cities#United_States

                                  0_1488211838624_Screenshot from 2017-02-27 17-10-32.png

                                  Huh, I knew Raleigh was a "planned" city wasn't aware that Charleston was as well.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    OK i stand corrected on how they were funded - but funding them in the hopes that people would just want to move in with no actual presold reason seems like a huge gamble.. one they clearly lost on.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      OK i stand corrected on how they were funded - but funding them in the hopes that people would just want to move in with no actual presold reason seems like a huge gamble.. one they clearly lost on.

                                      You could say the same of Las Vegas too. Creating a paradise inside of the desert seemed crazy at the time

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        OK i stand corrected on how they were funded - but funding them in the hopes that people would just want to move in with no actual presold reason seems like a huge gamble.. one they clearly lost on.

                                        Well, their population had been increasing 2-3% year over year beginning in the 1960s right up until the 90s and 00s. Not saying you're wrong but there was no indication at the time that the rate would slow down.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          OK i stand corrected on how they were funded - but funding them in the hopes that people would just want to move in with no actual presold reason seems like a huge gamble.. one they clearly lost on.

                                          Did they? They created loads and loads of jobs to build them, and you only know of the empty ones right this moment, you don't know anything about how many were made, how many were wild successes, if these are about to be moved into, etc. You don't have anything to base the opinion that they gambled and failed. Sure, that might be true, but there is no reason to determine that it is so. It's massively more complex than "the building is empty."

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                            @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            OK i stand corrected on how they were funded - but funding them in the hopes that people would just want to move in with no actual presold reason seems like a huge gamble.. one they clearly lost on.

                                            You could say the same of Las Vegas too. Creating a paradise inside of the desert seemed crazy at the time

                                            Wasn't the government there, I don't think.

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