Exchange Outlook Client replacement
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@gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@scottalanmiller said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
There is no replacement for Outlook, really never will be. Web is what replaced it. Outlook is the lingering client/server piece of Exchange.
Sadly when a single person manages email, calendar and tasks for several different people, OWA is not the answer.
What is your response time with synchronizing with O365?
Are all of these accounts on the same O365 account?
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@Minion-Queen said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
The customer has 7 exchange email accounts. That would = 7 OWA's open at the same time, 7 Calendars, 7 Tasks lists. That is 21 Open Webpages, just for email etc.! All of these are busy email accounts and schedules.
Outlook it's self is not built for this. Can't handle it.
So looking for a desktop ap to organize the craziness.
This doesn't seem fair - Outlook wouldn't have 7 panes open for email (I hope) nor 7 panes open for Calendars (I hope) or 7 panes open for Task lists (I hope)... because then you'd have the same 21+ windows open, just that they would all be Outlook inside of a web browser.
So sure, I can see that they might have 7 webpages open, one for each account, then you click email/calendar/Tasks inside each depending on what you want to look at at that moment.
Unless you're really telling us that they do have 21 open windows for Outlook - then I ask you, how in the world do that manage that?
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@Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
Are all of these accounts on the same O365 account?
of course not. how can 2 accounts be on 1 account? you mean multiple users on one O365 account?
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@JaredBusch said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
Are all of these accounts on the same O365 account?
of course not. how can 2 accounts be on 1 account? you mean multiple users on one O365 account?
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Yes @JaredBusch I was asking if all of these users are on the same O365 account. If they are, then OWA can get access to them all in a single pane of glass. If they are in different O365 accounts, then you will have to use different browser tabs for each, assuming that works - I've seen cookie issues not allow things like that before.
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Think of it this way. Secretary for a sales team: 7 team members, with totally unique email accounts, but she helps answer their emails, coordinates calendars and task lists. So she needs not only to receive but to send as them as well.
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@gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@scottalanmiller said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
There is no replacement for Outlook, really never will be. Web is what replaced it. Outlook is the lingering client/server piece of Exchange.
Sadly when a single person manages email, calendar and tasks for several different people, OWA is not the answer.
What is your response time with synchronizing with O365?
There is none. OWA is looking right at the server. Nothing to synchronize.
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@Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@JaredBusch said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
Are all of these accounts on the same O365 account?
of course not. how can 2 accounts be on 1 account? you mean multiple users on one O365 account?
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Yes @JaredBusch I was asking if all of these users are on the same O365 account. If they are, then OWA can get access to them all in a single pane of glass. If they are in different O365 accounts, then you will have to use different browser tabs for each, assuming that works - I've seen cookie issues not allow things like that before.
This is what you need. I use two o365 accounts ... one is @companyONE the other is @companyTWO. Sometimes I've had @companyTHREE asll well.
Never have I been able to have all three of these in one browser, so it's been ONE in Chome, TWO in Firefox and THREE in Chromium.
So, do do what is needed, is Three browsers, and three tabs per for Mail, Tasks and Calendar....
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@gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@JaredBusch said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
Are all of these accounts on the same O365 account?
of course not. how can 2 accounts be on 1 account? you mean multiple users on one O365 account?
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Yes @JaredBusch I was asking if all of these users are on the same O365 account. If they are, then OWA can get access to them all in a single pane of glass. If they are in different O365 accounts, then you will have to use different browser tabs for each, assuming that works - I've seen cookie issues not allow things like that before.
This is what you need. I use two o365 accounts ... one is @companyONE the other is @companyTWO. Sometimes I've had @companyTHREE asll well.
Never have I been able to have all three of these in one browser, so it's been ONE in Chome, TWO in Firefox and THREE in Chromium.
So, do do what is needed, is Three browsers, and three tabs per for Mail, Tasks and Calendar....
as an aside, this one is worth a try
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@scottalanmiller said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
Yup, they all have calendar, tasks, etc.
As you already said, this is an email server, this does not solve the problem.
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@gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@JaredBusch said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
Are all of these accounts on the same O365 account?
of course not. how can 2 accounts be on 1 account? you mean multiple users on one O365 account?
/sigh -
Yes @JaredBusch I was asking if all of these users are on the same O365 account. If they are, then OWA can get access to them all in a single pane of glass. If they are in different O365 accounts, then you will have to use different browser tabs for each, assuming that works - I've seen cookie issues not allow things like that before.
This is what you need. I use two o365 accounts ... one is @companyONE the other is @companyTWO. Sometimes I've had @companyTHREE asll well.
Never have I been able to have all three of these in one browser, so it's been ONE in Chome, TWO in Firefox and THREE in Chromium.
So, do do what is needed, is Three browsers, and three tabs per for Mail, Tasks and Calendar....
Yeah I was wondering if you'd have a cookie/authentication issue?
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@Minion-Queen said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
Think of it this way. Secretary for a sales team: 7 team members, with totally unique email accounts, but she helps answer their emails, coordinates calendars and task lists. So she needs not only to receive but to send as them as well.
If this secretary is working for one company, and assuming all sales people are on the same O365 account, then a single pane with all of them should be doable - sure she'll have to click on the person's name in the lower left corner to change between accounts, but do you really want to have dozens of table/windows open to flip between views? Is clicking on their username that slow?
Gene - do they really need a tab to be open for Email, and one for Calendar and one for Tasks? moving between the applets is to complex/time consuming?
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@gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
First off please note that this is about
MS Outlook, but not in regards toemail functionality. The email function operates fine.I am looking for an MS Outlook replacement that can properly handle multiple Exchange accounts and functions of:
- Calendaring
- Task Management
- CRM not needed
- Organization with colors / flags
- Supports multiple accounts (currently at seven)
When Outlook 2016 connects to Exchange ( Office 365) to one or two accounts it operates normally. However with six and higher it becomes unstable and crashes repeatedly.
While OpenSource would be nice, it is not a high requirement. But the remaining items are, as a single person needs to access and respond as several accounts at once. Separate programs become inefficient and problematic.
Options that have been looked at already are:
- Zimbra - Not suitable as the task and calendar feature is needed.
- Mozilla - Crashes with more that two accounts, and deleting a email can seemingly take 24 hours
- Inky Pro - Possible and am researching
- Windows Mail - Lacks Calendar / Tasks
- Mailbird - Lacks Calendar / Tasks
- Opera Mail - Lacks Calendar / Tasks
- ...
Still searching and review products.. but I have not found anything as of yet that meets these requirements.
Windows Mail, at least on Win10, does have Calendar. but not tasks. Then there is the fact it likes crashing, a lot
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This is so ridiculous. You have 7 employees and can't afford for them to have email. Maybe in 1999, that was acceptable but not now. Here is a list of reasons why this is a problem:
No reliable auditing (who sent or deleted that last email?)
Confidential emails could be opened by other users
Account lockouts can cause delay to email
Very unprofessional. Personal gmail accounts are more acceptableI have a solution for you, but the auditing probably isnt the easiest and it will cost you $10 a month which might be too much money for this company if they have hosting with Cpanel:
Even if they don't all you need to do is migrate their domain to a webserver with cpanel. You can just spin up a mail service and webmail. You get a calendar, email, tasks, etc.
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@gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@scottalanmiller said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
I will look at it more indepth then,... from my reading it appeared to be limited to email.
What about Zimbra Desktop? Did you consider it or just the Zimbra mail server?
https://www.zimbra.com/zimbra-desktop/ -
This whole thing is not about finding an email server; it's about finding a suitable email application, as Outlook is not sufficient.
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@gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@JaredBusch said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
Are all of these accounts on the same O365 account?
of course not. how can 2 accounts be on 1 account? you mean multiple users on one O365 account?
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Yes @JaredBusch I was asking if all of these users are on the same O365 account. If they are, then OWA can get access to them all in a single pane of glass. If they are in different O365 accounts, then you will have to use different browser tabs for each, assuming that works - I've seen cookie issues not allow things like that before.
This is what you need. I use two o365 accounts ... one is @companyONE the other is @companyTWO. Sometimes I've had @companyTHREE asll well.
Never have I been able to have all three of these in one browser, so it's been ONE in Chome, TWO in Firefox and THREE in Chromium.
So, do do what is needed, is Three browsers, and three tabs per for Mail, Tasks and Calendar....
You can't use the open another mailbox feature of OWA? We have several users that open 3-4 different mailboxes in different tabs of the same browser. It can be difficult to manage sure but not impossible or fool hardy.
In the secretary example why are they opening 7 different calendars why don't the sales team share the personal calendar with the secretary and then they can update individual ones as they go. One pane of glass for calendars and tasks. Or better yet setup a calendar resource and share it to all 8 people. Then no one is the calendar owner.
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@NetworkNerd said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@scottalanmiller said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
I will look at it more indepth then,... from my reading it appeared to be limited to email.
What about Zimbra Desktop? Did you consider it or just the Zimbra mail server?
https://www.zimbra.com/zimbra-desktop/Desktop is a client for the server, I don't think it even functions without the server. It's certainly not meant to.
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@coliver said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@JaredBusch said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
@Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:
Are all of these accounts on the same O365 account?
of course not. how can 2 accounts be on 1 account? you mean multiple users on one O365 account?
/sigh -
Yes @JaredBusch I was asking if all of these users are on the same O365 account. If they are, then OWA can get access to them all in a single pane of glass. If they are in different O365 accounts, then you will have to use different browser tabs for each, assuming that works - I've seen cookie issues not allow things like that before.
This is what you need. I use two o365 accounts ... one is @companyONE the other is @companyTWO. Sometimes I've had @companyTHREE asll well.
Never have I been able to have all three of these in one browser, so it's been ONE in Chome, TWO in Firefox and THREE in Chromium.
So, do do what is needed, is Three browsers, and three tabs per for Mail, Tasks and Calendar....
You can't use the open another mailbox feature of OWA? We have several users that open 3-4 different mailboxes in different tabs of the same browser. It can be difficult to manage sure but not impossible or fool hardy.
In the secretary example why are they opening 7 different calendars why don't the sales team share the personal calendar with the secretary and then they can update individual ones as they go. One pane of glass for calendars and tasks. Or better yet setup a calendar resource and share it to all 8 people. Then no one is the calendar owner.
Good idea on the shared calendars - then she will see all 8 calendars side by side in her own view. Can you do that with tasks too? I know you can with email, they just all line up - that's what I was talking about earlier.
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Again.... it's that Outlook can't handle that many email accounts let alone calendars etc. Looking for a single app to have it all work in.
OWA is not a relevant option.
