xByte to Carry HPE

@stacksofplates said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@Dashrender said in xByte to Carry HPE:

Awesome... I know HPE servers... Don't know Dell... This is great news.

Ya 98% of our stuff is HPE.

I have one DL380 G8 and an IMB 2003 AIX box and a IBM 3650 M2.... We've never had Dell servers here.

I haven't worked on a Dell in 17+ yrs.

We have a few. Corporate started buying them but all of our clusters are HPE. And some random IBM and a few old Sun machines.

brianlittlejohn

I've never used an HPE server in production, only Dells.

NerdyDad

I've used HP's in the past. In a Dell shop here. I have no real preference, but the boss prefers Dells. Not really Pro-Dell, but more anti-HP. So we go with Dell.

JaredBusch

I don't care about the hardware, but I have always bought Dell because the onsite warranty costs were better.

I have clients that prefer one thing or another for whatever reason. But I care not.

coliver

@JaredBusch said in xByte to Carry HPE:

I don't care about the hardware, but I have always bought Dell because the onsite warranty costs were better.

I have clients that prefer one thing or another for whatever reason. But I care not.

I'm not sure I understand brand loyalty especially where servers are concerned. They are commodity hardware now, and have been for the past several years, get what you need for the moment at the best price and move on.

scottalanmiller

@coliver said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@JaredBusch said in xByte to Carry HPE:

I don't care about the hardware, but I have always bought Dell because the onsite warranty costs were better.

I have clients that prefer one thing or another for whatever reason. But I care not.

I'm not sure I understand brand loyalty especially where servers are concerned. They are commodity hardware now, and have been for the past several years, get what you need for the moment at the best price and move on.

That's only true if you are not using their management tooling. And if you don't consider support or spare parts. There is still quite a bit of advantage to sticking to a single vendor.

coliver

@scottalanmiller said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@coliver said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@JaredBusch said in xByte to Carry HPE:

I don't care about the hardware, but I have always bought Dell because the onsite warranty costs were better.

I have clients that prefer one thing or another for whatever reason. But I care not.

I'm not sure I understand brand loyalty especially where servers are concerned. They are commodity hardware now, and have been for the past several years, get what you need for the moment at the best price and move on.

That's only true if you are not using their management tooling. And if you don't consider support or spare parts. There is still quite a bit of advantage to sticking to a single vendor.

I can agree with the management tools but support and spare parts are generally consistent between vendors, as in you will get pretty much identical support from HPE as you would from Dell at a comparable price. Agreed a single vendor could be a good thing. But for a lot of cases vendor lock-in has its own risks.

scottalanmiller

@coliver said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@scottalanmiller said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@coliver said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@JaredBusch said in xByte to Carry HPE:

I don't care about the hardware, but I have always bought Dell because the onsite warranty costs were better.

I have clients that prefer one thing or another for whatever reason. But I care not.

I'm not sure I understand brand loyalty especially where servers are concerned. They are commodity hardware now, and have been for the past several years, get what you need for the moment at the best price and move on.

That's only true if you are not using their management tooling. And if you don't consider support or spare parts. There is still quite a bit of advantage to sticking to a single vendor.

I can agree with the management tools but support and spare parts are generally consistent between vendors, as in you will get pretty much identical support from HPE as you would from Dell at a comparable price. Agreed a single vendor could be a good thing. But for a lot of cases vendor lock-in has its own risks.

Yes, but you can't keep one set of spares for multiple vendors. You have to manage support agreements and relationships with more companies. Things like that.

coliver

@scottalanmiller said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@coliver said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@scottalanmiller said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@coliver said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@JaredBusch said in xByte to Carry HPE:

I don't care about the hardware, but I have always bought Dell because the onsite warranty costs were better.

I have clients that prefer one thing or another for whatever reason. But I care not.

I'm not sure I understand brand loyalty especially where servers are concerned. They are commodity hardware now, and have been for the past several years, get what you need for the moment at the best price and move on.

That's only true if you are not using their management tooling. And if you don't consider support or spare parts. There is still quite a bit of advantage to sticking to a single vendor.

I can agree with the management tools but support and spare parts are generally consistent between vendors, as in you will get pretty much identical support from HPE as you would from Dell at a comparable price. Agreed a single vendor could be a good thing. But for a lot of cases vendor lock-in has its own risks.

Yes, but you can't keep one set of spares for multiple vendors. You have to manage support agreements and relationships with more companies. Things like that.

We're talking about the SMB, are there a lot of SMBs that carry spare server parts instead of using the 4 hour response window that most of the major vendors have. If the cost of downtime is big enough sure they would have the parts on hand and your argument makes sense. But I doubt most SMBs would see much advantage to having the parts on hand over a 4-hour or 24-hour window.

Agreed with the managing support contracts but most SMBs, again, probably won't see a difference other then we need to call X vendor for this hardware.

JaredBusch

@coliver said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@JaredBusch said in xByte to Carry HPE:

I don't care about the hardware, but I have always bought Dell because the onsite warranty costs were better.

I have clients that prefer one thing or another for whatever reason. But I care not.

I'm not sure I understand brand loyalty especially where servers are concerned. They are commodity hardware now, and have been for the past several years, get what you need for the moment at the best price and move on.

You are reading something into what I said. I said I buy dell because the warranty is cheaper. Period. I did not say anything about the parts. I also have not bought a new server in years. Last few have been from XByte.

wirestyle22

@JaredBusch said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@coliver said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@JaredBusch said in xByte to Carry HPE:

I don't care about the hardware, but I have always bought Dell because the onsite warranty costs were better.

I have clients that prefer one thing or another for whatever reason. But I care not.

I'm not sure I understand brand loyalty especially where servers are concerned. They are commodity hardware now, and have been for the past several years, get what you need for the moment at the best price and move on.

You are reading something into what I said. I said I buy dell because the warranty is cheaper. Period. I did not say anything about the parts. I also have not bought a new server in years. Last few have been from XByte.

I think he means that in relation to your customers preferences. not yours

coliver

@JaredBusch said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@coliver said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@JaredBusch said in xByte to Carry HPE:

I don't care about the hardware, but I have always bought Dell because the onsite warranty costs were better.

I have clients that prefer one thing or another for whatever reason. But I care not.

I'm not sure I understand brand loyalty especially where servers are concerned. They are commodity hardware now, and have been for the past several years, get what you need for the moment at the best price and move on.

You are reading something into what I said. I said I buy dell because the warranty is cheaper. Period. I did not say anything about the parts. I also have not bought a new server in years. Last few have been from XByte.

Nope, not reading anything into what you said. Using your comment, that your customers have a preference, to spring board to something else.

JaredBusch

@coliver said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@JaredBusch said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@coliver said in xByte to Carry HPE:

@JaredBusch said in xByte to Carry HPE:

I don't care about the hardware, but I have always bought Dell because the onsite warranty costs were better.

I have clients that prefer one thing or another for whatever reason. But I care not.

I'm not sure I understand brand loyalty especially where servers are concerned. They are commodity hardware now, and have been for the past several years, get what you need for the moment at the best price and move on.

You are reading something into what I said. I said I buy dell because the warranty is cheaper. Period. I did not say anything about the parts. I also have not bought a new server in years. Last few have been from XByte.

Nope, not reading anything into what you said. Using your comment, that your customers have a preference, to spring board to something else.

Those preferences don't matter though, because they are just responses to marketing. They are not IT people and have no idea. Thankfully there is no difference as we have all said.