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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      The putting a hold on your card for the amount of the part would be normal and acceptable. But putting a hold on your card for the entire NAS is obscene.

      So I get it, while he's ticked that they asked for a CC, it's common practice to make sure you aren't trying to steal a spare part from them.

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre
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        I have never once had any (other) vendor do this for a warranty return... and I've dealt with many, both personally and professionally.

        We had this happen twice at my last job when the system burned out two drives. They only put a hold for the amount of the drive that was being shipped to us, though. We did have to pay shipping.

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        • mlnewsM
          mlnews @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

          So I get it, while he's ticked that they asked for a CC, it's common practice to make sure you aren't trying to steal a spare part from them.

          An honest hold would be only for the part and only for a day or two. Not for the entire NAS and not for several weeks. A true warranty should not depend on you being able to afford to be able to replace a machine and not fix it if you can't, as well.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @dafyre
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            @dafyre said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

            I have never once had any (other) vendor do this for a warranty return... and I've dealt with many, both personally and professionally.

            Same here, never heard of this, ever.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @mlnews
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              @mlnews I don't disagree, but a hold on your card is a normal event (for the part) not the entire unit.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

                @mlnews I don't disagree, but a hold on your card is a normal event (for the part) not the entire unit.

                Normal in what world? What other vendor does that?

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

                  @mlnews I don't disagree, but a hold on your card is a normal event (for the part) not the entire unit.

                  Normal in what world? What other vendor does that?

                  Every vendor I've ever dealt with does this, where they put a hold on your card, and the hold is there until the part is returned, and after so many business days is the hold released.

                  Now weeks, I understand is extensive. I wasn't commenting on the duration of the hold, just the fact that a hold is common-practice.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

                    @mlnews I don't disagree, but a hold on your card is a normal event (for the part) not the entire unit.

                    Normal in what world? What other vendor does that?

                    Every vendor I've ever dealt with does this, where they put a hold on your card, and the hold is there until the part is returned, and after so many business days is the hold released.

                    Now weeks, I understand is extensive. I wasn't commenting on the duration of the hold, just the fact that a hold is common-practice.

                    What vendors are you dealing with, though? Not HP, HPE, Dell, IBM, Cisco, Oracle, Fujitsu, Drobo... no one. I've never seen this, ever.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      Scott, I too have had this happen to me, it was only once, and it definitely was not IBM, HP or Dell. I don't recall who it was.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
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                        What's odd to me is that they are going to Buffalo for a lost drive. I bought my NAS and the drives from Amazon, so my drives would be dealt with whatever vendor I purchased from through Amazon, not Buffalo.

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                        • MattSpellerM
                          MattSpeller @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

                          The putting a hold on your card for the amount of the part would be normal and acceptable. But putting a hold on your card for the entire NAS is obscene.

                          So I get it, while he's ticked that they asked for a CC, it's common practice to make sure you aren't trying to steal a spare part from them.

                          This is the difference between being treated as a customer and treated as a business

                          NCIX/Newegg/CanadaComputers do this all the time, because you're an untrustworthy lowly consumer. I get it, but don't try that wanky crap on a business relationship

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @MattSpeller
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                            @MattSpeller said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

                            ...but don't try that wanky crap on a business relationship

                            Precisely. We ditched our Buffalo after it started burning out drives on a regular basis.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

                              What's odd to me is that they are going to Buffalo for a lost drive. I bought my NAS and the drives from Amazon, so my drives would be dealt with whatever vendor I purchased from through Amazon, not Buffalo.

                              Most people buy their drives as part of the NAS and get service for the entire unit, just like any server. Bringing your own drives is definitely the niche, not the norm.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                                @MattSpeller said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

                                The putting a hold on your card for the amount of the part would be normal and acceptable. But putting a hold on your card for the entire NAS is obscene.

                                So I get it, while he's ticked that they asked for a CC, it's common practice to make sure you aren't trying to steal a spare part from them.

                                This is the difference between being treated as a customer and treated as a business

                                NCIX/Newegg/CanadaComputers do this all the time, because you're an untrustworthy lowly consumer. I get it, but don't try that wanky crap on a business relationship

                                Right, but in IT we never seen this. This just indicates that Buffalo is consumer gear, not business gear. A business might not even have a credit card. What a weird thing to request! Even businesses that have CCs, rarely do they have a workflow that would allow IT to use it for this. Business and IT just don't work this way. No valid vendor could.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

                                  @Dashrender said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

                                  What's odd to me is that they are going to Buffalo for a lost drive. I bought my NAS and the drives from Amazon, so my drives would be dealt with whatever vendor I purchased from through Amazon, not Buffalo.

                                  Most people buy their drives as part of the NAS and get service for the entire unit, just like any server. Bringing your own drives is definitely the niche, not the norm.

                                  OIC

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

                                    @Dashrender said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

                                    What's odd to me is that they are going to Buffalo for a lost drive. I bought my NAS and the drives from Amazon, so my drives would be dealt with whatever vendor I purchased from through Amazon, not Buffalo.

                                    Most people buy their drives as part of the NAS and get service for the entire unit, just like any server. Bringing your own drives is definitely the niche, not the norm.

                                    OIC

                                    Nothing wrong with getting your own drives, this allows you to control replacements and such and to pick just the right drives for your needs. Getting drives included means you are paying extra for support plans which makes no sense if your vendor doesn't get you the drives by next business day at the latest and requires you to pay or loan them money while they do so. So getting drives in a Buffalo is clearly crazy, but getting drives in a business class device can make sense.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      Now that drives are cheaper, expensive support makes little sense. The cost of a six bay NAS with included drives with replacement support will cost more than buying the same NAS, getting "just the right" drives and buying a spare to keep on hand for instant replacement.

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                                      • ntozierN
                                        ntozier
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                                        My only experience with them was for an RMA for the whole NAS not for a single drive, but I experienced the same thing (CC hold, etc). I don't recall if we had to pay for the shipping but I want to say that they footed the bill for the shipping because of the problem.

                                        Maybe the person you spoke to didn't realize if was just for a single drive? I mean I find the some non-technical users think of a Tower as the "hard drive". 🙂

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @ntozier
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                                          @ntozier said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

                                          Maybe the person you spoke to didn't realize if was just for a single drive? I mean I find the some non-technical users think of a Tower as the "hard drive". 🙂

                                          Here is a quote from him: "And that was for the entire NAS with two 4TB drives (I only needed one drive)!!!"

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