Looking forward for my First IT job
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@jimmynelson said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller hello scott, I dnot know . I forwarded my cv's as 2nd line supoort to agencies because I have a friend as senior IT Analyst, help me to apply to forward my cv's to agency and I got message last night
Assuming your CV's are honest, you already have the necessary requirements for the job. There is nothing to prepare for if you don't know the products they are using.
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@jimmynelson said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller hello scott, I dnot know . I forwarded my cv's as 2nd line supoort to agencies because I have a friend as senior IT Analyst, help me to apply to forward my cv's to agency and I got message last night
Well that's good, but be aware that there is no way for us to tell you what the job is. The terms are generic (so is IT Analyst, that's not an actual job, that's a fake title that means nothing at all, I've had it before too) so they mean, literally, nothing. You could be doing anything. It's no more information than "I have a job, what will I be doing?"
Congrats on the new job. Just relax between now and then. There is no way for them to expect you to have any idea what you will be doing until they tell you when you arrive.
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@DustinB3403 thank you . What you think I need to know that's what am asking ? I need to get myself ready
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@jimmynelson said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@DustinB3403 thank you . What you think I need to know that's what am asking ? I need to get myself ready
We can't possibly know, that's the problem. No idea at all.
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@jimmynelson said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@DustinB3403 thank you . What you think I need to know that's what am asking ? I need to get myself ready
It's entry level, go into day one and say, ok bitches, teach me.
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@jimmynelson said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller hello scott, I dnot know . I forwarded my cv's as 2nd line supoort to agencies because I have a friend as senior IT Analyst, help me to apply to forward my cv's to agency and I got message last night
So you're purposefully applying for jobs you can't do? 2nd line support are the guys that DO KNOW. They aren't the ones reading the scripts of premade pages. I think your friend is doing you a disservice.
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@DustinB3403 said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@jimmynelson said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@DustinB3403 thank you . What you think I need to know that's what am asking ? I need to get myself ready
It's entry level, go into day one and say, ok bitches, teach me.
I really dare him to do that ROFLOL!
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@Dashrender said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@jimmynelson said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller hello scott, I dnot know . I forwarded my cv's as 2nd line supoort to agencies because I have a friend as senior IT Analyst, help me to apply to forward my cv's to agency and I got message last night
So you're purposefully applying for jobs you can't do? 2nd line support are the guys that DO KNOW. They aren't the ones reading the scripts of premade pages. I think your friend is doing you a disservice.
He doesn't know what the job entails. He didn't imply that he doesn't have IT knowledge.
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What's amazing is that there was no interview and no contact with the company that's hiring. I know that this is not the US and this stuff happens elsewhere, but be aware that no serious position will do this. So from the fact that there is no interaction with the company hiring you can know that this is entry level. It implies that the person hiring is entry level as well and has no idea how to hire.
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@scottalanmiller said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@Dashrender said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@jimmynelson said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller hello scott, I dnot know . I forwarded my cv's as 2nd line supoort to agencies because I have a friend as senior IT Analyst, help me to apply to forward my cv's to agency and I got message last night
So you're purposefully applying for jobs you can't do? 2nd line support are the guys that DO KNOW. They aren't the ones reading the scripts of premade pages. I think your friend is doing you a disservice.
He doesn't know what the job entails. He didn't imply that he doesn't have IT knowledge.
Yeah. The title is unfamiliar to him. It doesn't mean a specific set of responsibilities though unfortunately for him. That would make it easy for everyone.
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@wirestyle22 said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@Dashrender said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@jimmynelson said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller hello scott, I dnot know . I forwarded my cv's as 2nd line supoort to agencies because I have a friend as senior IT Analyst, help me to apply to forward my cv's to agency and I got message last night
So you're purposefully applying for jobs you can't do? 2nd line support are the guys that DO KNOW. They aren't the ones reading the scripts of premade pages. I think your friend is doing you a disservice.
He doesn't know what the job entails. He didn't imply that he doesn't have IT knowledge.
Yeah. The title is unfamiliar to him. It doesn't mean a specific set of responsibilities though unfortunately for him. That would make it easy for everyone.
Nothing in IT has that, really. Even really specific, real titles like "RHEL Administrator" could mean "managing printers" or "performance management and troubleshooting" or "writing code for Chef"... easily one hundred different jobs that have essentially zero overlap.
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@scottalanmiller said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@wirestyle22 said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@Dashrender said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@jimmynelson said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller hello scott, I dnot know . I forwarded my cv's as 2nd line supoort to agencies because I have a friend as senior IT Analyst, help me to apply to forward my cv's to agency and I got message last night
So you're purposefully applying for jobs you can't do? 2nd line support are the guys that DO KNOW. They aren't the ones reading the scripts of premade pages. I think your friend is doing you a disservice.
He doesn't know what the job entails. He didn't imply that he doesn't have IT knowledge.
Yeah. The title is unfamiliar to him. It doesn't mean a specific set of responsibilities though unfortunately for him. That would make it easy for everyone.
Nothing in IT has that, really. Even really specific, real titles like "RHEL Administrator" could mean "managing printers" or "performance management and troubleshooting" or "writing code for Chef"... easily one hundred different jobs that have essentially zero overlap.
Yeah it sucks lol
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@scottalanmiller said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@wirestyle22 said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@Dashrender said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@jimmynelson said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller hello scott, I dnot know . I forwarded my cv's as 2nd line supoort to agencies because I have a friend as senior IT Analyst, help me to apply to forward my cv's to agency and I got message last night
So you're purposefully applying for jobs you can't do? 2nd line support are the guys that DO KNOW. They aren't the ones reading the scripts of premade pages. I think your friend is doing you a disservice.
He doesn't know what the job entails. He didn't imply that he doesn't have IT knowledge.
Yeah. The title is unfamiliar to him. It doesn't mean a specific set of responsibilities though unfortunately for him. That would make it easy for everyone.
Nothing in IT has that, really. Even really specific, real titles like "RHEL Administrator" could mean "managing printers" or "performance management and troubleshooting" or "writing code for Chef"... easily one hundred different jobs that have essentially zero overlap.
It makes it so its harder to compare salaries ultimately. That's why they love it
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@wirestyle22 said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@wirestyle22 said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@Dashrender said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@jimmynelson said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller hello scott, I dnot know . I forwarded my cv's as 2nd line supoort to agencies because I have a friend as senior IT Analyst, help me to apply to forward my cv's to agency and I got message last night
So you're purposefully applying for jobs you can't do? 2nd line support are the guys that DO KNOW. They aren't the ones reading the scripts of premade pages. I think your friend is doing you a disservice.
He doesn't know what the job entails. He didn't imply that he doesn't have IT knowledge.
Yeah. The title is unfamiliar to him. It doesn't mean a specific set of responsibilities though unfortunately for him. That would make it easy for everyone.
Nothing in IT has that, really. Even really specific, real titles like "RHEL Administrator" could mean "managing printers" or "performance management and troubleshooting" or "writing code for Chef"... easily one hundred different jobs that have essentially zero overlap.
It makes it so its harder to compare salaries ultimately. That's why they love it
It's not that sinister. IT is a business, not technical, discipline and business roles have the same problem. Even two CEOs have nothing in common.
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@scottalanmiller said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@wirestyle22 said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@wirestyle22 said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@Dashrender said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@jimmynelson said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller hello scott, I dnot know . I forwarded my cv's as 2nd line supoort to agencies because I have a friend as senior IT Analyst, help me to apply to forward my cv's to agency and I got message last night
So you're purposefully applying for jobs you can't do? 2nd line support are the guys that DO KNOW. They aren't the ones reading the scripts of premade pages. I think your friend is doing you a disservice.
He doesn't know what the job entails. He didn't imply that he doesn't have IT knowledge.
Yeah. The title is unfamiliar to him. It doesn't mean a specific set of responsibilities though unfortunately for him. That would make it easy for everyone.
Nothing in IT has that, really. Even really specific, real titles like "RHEL Administrator" could mean "managing printers" or "performance management and troubleshooting" or "writing code for Chef"... easily one hundred different jobs that have essentially zero overlap.
It makes it so its harder to compare salaries ultimately. That's why they love it
It's not that sinister. IT is a business, not technical, discipline and business roles have the same problem. Even two CEOs have nothing in common.
That's true
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@scottalanmiller said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
Even two CEOs have nothing in common.
please explain that one.
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I think that people outside of business picture all CEOs sitting in a corner office looking at financial reports and telling slackers what to do while slaves bring him martinis and press his suits. But one CEO works in the trenches doing blue collar manual labour with the crew, one is on the road doing sales all day, one is writing code through the night, one is speaking at conferences, another lures investors, another spends all the time pouring over financial reports, one buys and sells other companies.... I've never met two CEOs that do similar things.
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@scottalanmiller said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
I think that people outside of business picture all CEOs sitting in a corner office looking at financial reports and telling slackers what to do while slaves bring him martinis and press his suits. But one CEO works in the trenches doing blue collar manual labour with the crew, one is on the road doing sales all day, one is writing code through the night, one is speaking at conferences, another lures investors, another spends all the time pouring over financial reports, one buys and sells other companies.... I've never met two CEOs that do similar things.
OK fine, but at the core though, they all have to run their companies, or else give that job to someone else, at which point, why are you the CEO?
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@Dashrender said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@wirestyle22 said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@Dashrender said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
DevOps tools are apparently becoming a thing for desktop deployments (Ansible, Chef, Salt)
ChocolatelyI'd be really surprised if he used those but it's not impossible.
@jimmynelson Do you know if they are even running Linux there in any capacity?
@stacksofplates is using those tools on Windows today. They are limited to Linux any longer.
No all of mine are RHEL. You can use those tools on Windows but I haven't.
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@Dashrender said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
@scottalanmiller said in Looking forward for my First IT job:
I think that people outside of business picture all CEOs sitting in a corner office looking at financial reports and telling slackers what to do while slaves bring him martinis and press his suits. But one CEO works in the trenches doing blue collar manual labour with the crew, one is on the road doing sales all day, one is writing code through the night, one is speaking at conferences, another lures investors, another spends all the time pouring over financial reports, one buys and sells other companies.... I've never met two CEOs that do similar things.
OK fine, but at the core though, they all have to run their companies, or else give that job to someone else, at which point, why are you the CEO?
What does "run the company" mean, though? When I was a restaurant manager, they taught us to sit in the office and never get our hands dirty, our job was to "manage."
All the other managers did that, and their restaurant shifts sucked. I got in the trenches and worked like crazy alongside my staff. They directed me, not me them. I was more of their assistant than their boss. I scheduled their hours and sent them home, but I didn't tell them how to do their jobs. I made sure that they were able to do their jobs. My shift could run at one quarter the staff of any other shift with the lowest food waste, highest profits, best customer response and the fastest turn around times on orders. I did nothing like the other managers, yet who was "running the business" more.
