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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said in New Laptop needed:

      @thwr said in New Laptop needed:

      ...is this just related to consumer devices or also to ThinkPads?

      As far as I know it was only the consumer brands.
      I can't quickly find a link talking about the driver locking - but Scott and I both have first hand experience with it. and I read tons of forum threads about the problem when I was having my problem.

      We really shouldn't forget the BIOS level remote support tool, that used the same password for every single Lenovo. The "fix"? Change the password. I haven't seen any research into weather it's still a single password for every machine since.

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      • thwrT
        thwr
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        Ok, thanks guys. I thought this was about SuperFish, but it seems to be about abusing UEFI and MS anti-theft to keep an installer around. Pretty bad that UEFI got plenty of space...

        Don't want to hijack this thread, but this is really a big problem for us. We got huge discounts on Lenovo equipment in the past, but I can't be sure anymore if the next version of ThinkPads or Business Yogas will have this "feature" too.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @thwr
          last edited by

          @thwr said in New Laptop needed:

          Ok, thanks guys. I thought this was about SuperFish, but it seems to be about abusing UEFI and MS anti-theft to keep an installer around. Pretty bad that UEFI got plenty of space...

          Don't want to hijack this thread, but this is really a big problem for us. We got huge discounts on Lenovo equipment in the past, but I can't be sure anymore if the next version of ThinkPads or Business Yogas will have this "feature" too.

          I don't recall any specific articles about Lenovo and superfish specifically about keying the hardware. Scott and myself found this through personal experience. Lenovo did release replacement NIC drivers that didn't have Superfish inside it.

          Lenovo's lying about it then only after being crucified in the media actually changing it - this makes them untrustworthy basically forever more.

          I suppose the only way they can dig themselves out of this whole is if the company is whole bought out by someone new, and the entire top several tiers of management are fired.

          Then after that scandal, they have two more scandals in less than a year. Again, I personally mostly give them a pass on the UEFI thing because it was a 'feature' of UEFI and MS OSs.
          But what's completely unforgivable is the targeting of consumers and the avoidance of businesses. It was clear from the models that got this crap vs those that didn't that there was thought and malice behind these decisions against the privacy of Lenovo's consumer customers.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in New Laptop needed:

            Lenovo's lying about it then only after being crucified in the media actually changing it - this makes them untrustworthy basically forever more.

            No matter what class of Lenovo machine you buy. I simply won't buy anything from them, nor will my wife or child, or anybody that listens to what I say.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @thwr
              last edited by

              @thwr said in New Laptop needed:

              Ok, thanks guys. I thought this was about SuperFish, but it seems to be about abusing UEFI and MS anti-theft to keep an installer around. Pretty bad that UEFI got plenty of space...

              Don't want to hijack this thread, but this is really a big problem for us. We got huge discounts on Lenovo equipment in the past, but I can't be sure anymore if the next version of ThinkPads or Business Yogas will have this "feature" too.

              It's about who Lenovo is st their core. Your enemy. Not a normal company with bloat ware.

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              • gjacobseG
                gjacobse
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                Considering these Dell options:

                New Inspiron 13 5000 2-in-1

                Inspiron 15 3000 Series (Intel)

                New Inspiron 15 7000 2-in-1

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                • gjacobseG
                  gjacobse
                  last edited by

                  To which I am leaning toward the New Inspiron 13 5000 2-in-1

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @gjacobse
                    last edited by

                    @gjacobse said in New Laptop needed:

                    To which I am leaning toward the New Inspiron 13 5000 2-in-1

                    All of them look decent, just please, swap that rust out for an SSD 😉

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                    • gjacobseG
                      gjacobse @travisdh1
                      last edited by

                      @travisdh1 said in New Laptop needed:

                      @gjacobse said in New Laptop needed:

                      To which I am leaning toward the New Inspiron 13 5000 2-in-1

                      All of them look decent, just please, swap that rust out for an SSD 😉

                      Been thinking of that... but the 'best' drive I see is the

                      Samsung 850 EVO which adds another $130 to the over all cost.

                      I WAS going to put the SSD in the laptop I have, and the Netbook (not a 500GB).. but sheesh..I"m not made of money.

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                      • gjacobseG
                        gjacobse
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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @gjacobse
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                          @gjacobse said in New Laptop needed:

                          $718

                          Use the drive that is in it until you find a good deal on an SSD.

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