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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

      Have not looked at this, but what about a GoPro? That has HDMI out and has good audio and is super simple to use.

      Another good choice if the HDMI is active as a "monitor" for the the unit.

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22
        last edited by wirestyle22

        @Mike-Davis

        Any budget in mind? If they don't have a computer that you can use for this purpose I would consider buying something like an Intel Nuc and just doing it through IP's. The cost saved by using a Raspberry Pi is going to increase the labor cost. If you're doing it pro-bono (unsure fi you're a member of the church) then that's really up to you.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said in analog video stream:

          @Mike-Davis

          Any budget in mind? If they don't have a computer that you can use for this purpose I would consider buying something like an Intel Nuc and just doing it through IP's.

          Over complicated. The point is to have nothing but the hardware.

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22
            last edited by wirestyle22

            couldn't you do hdmi over ethernet?

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @wirestyle22
              last edited by

              @wirestyle22 said in analog video stream:

              couldn't you do hdmi over ethernet?

              He can after he splits it sure.
              If needed

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
                last edited by

                @wirestyle22 said in analog video stream:

                @Mike-Davis

                Any budget in mind? If they don't have a computer that you can use for this purpose I would consider buying something like an Intel Nuc and just doing it through IP's. The cost saved by using a Raspberry Pi is going to increase the labor cost. If you're doing it pro-bono (unsure fi you're a member of the church) then that's really up to you.

                Budget price for the job I believe is 1000 or under

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                • Mike DavisM
                  Mike Davis
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                  So I tested out VLC and OBS. Both are pretty cool and I learned a bit by messing with them. In the end I don't think either will meet my needs for now.

                  VLC had no problem letting me select my webcam I could see the live video. There was a 1 second delay with the video and audio viewing it locally. Then I set up a http stream and viewed that with VLC player on my laptop. There is a 30 second delay on a wired connection. That would have been acceptable except I couldn't find anyway to view the stream on my Samsung smart TV.

                  So then I downloaded OBS https://obsproject.com/ Thanks @DustinB3403
                  This is a cool program that answered another question I had, but in the end doesn't work for this application because there is no way (that I could find) to stream it to a TV. It's set up to stream to commercial stream services, but not to your own. This guy figured out how to put together all the pieces to set up a custom server that VLC can read from, but there again, I can figure out how to get my TV to connect to the stream. https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/custom-stream-option-and-vlc-under-windows-fixed-with-instruction.15925/

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                    @Mike-Davis in those cases, you'd not use the TV directly but get a cheaper TV that doesn't have a media system built in and connect it to a Roku or Raspberry Pi or something else simple that will handle the decoding.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

                      @Mike-Davis in those cases, you'd not use the TV directly but get a cheaper TV that doesn't have a media system built in and connect it to a Roku or Raspberry Pi or something else simple that will handle the decoding.

                      Yes, and again, that gets out of your scope. I seriously think your best choice will be a standard camcorder, HDMI splitter, and long HDMI cables to the other rooms. If Long HDMI is not going to work, then HDMI to Ethernet converters.

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                      • Mike DavisM
                        Mike Davis
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                        I did notice that running VLC and doing the transcoding was using up 60% of my Xeon CPU, so a faster computer would probably be needed, then we have to deal with running VLC and making sure the Roku picks back up if the stream was interrupted. In my testing if I made a setting change, VLC on the client side just stopped and didn't pick back up even if the stream resumed. So bottom line, I would probably have at least $600-$1000 in to a PC.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                          @Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:

                          I did notice that running VLC and doing the transcoding ...

                          That's the secret to any of those kinds of things....don't transcode. Transcoding is a massive power user and reduces quality a lot and introduces latency. If you need to transcode, reconsider your sources.

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                          • Mike DavisM
                            Mike Davis
                            last edited by Mike Davis

                            I think @JaredBusch is right.

                            I just found this:
                            Bosch DINION AN 5000 1/3" CCD 960H True D/N WDR Camera Kit with 5-50 mm Lens
                            https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1140425-REG/bosch_f_01u_295_530_dinion_an_5000_1_3.html
                            Add to that a $120 splitter and some coax cable and I can go straight in to the back of the TV via the composite RCA input.

                            I'm sure for a little more I could find one with a HDMI output and do just what Jared said.

                            If they ever want to go digital, a $50 capture card in the PC will accept the composite video.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @Mike Davis
                              last edited by

                              @Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:

                              I think @JaredBusch is right.

                              I just found this:
                              Bosch DINION AN 5000 1/3" CCD 960H True D/N WDR Camera Kit with 5-50 mm Lens
                              https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1140425-REG/bosch_f_01u_295_530_dinion_an_5000_1_3.html
                              Add to that a $120 splitter and some coax cable and I can go straight in to the back of the TV via the composite RCA input.

                              I'm sure for a little more I could find one with a HDMI output and do just what Jared said.

                              If they ever want to go digital, a $50 capture card in the PC will accept the composite video.

                              That is a security camera and not something you can typically just hook up to a TV. They do not output on a "channel."

                              You are still over shopping.
                              https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534312-REG/Hamilton_HDV5200_1_HDV5200_High_Definition_Digital.html

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
                                last edited by JaredBusch

                                The only issue I would expect with a camcorder is turning it on after a power fail or something.

                                A GoPro Hero 5 will give you bluetooth/wifi acces as well as HDMI out. and is only $400 MSRP.
                                https://shop.gopro.com/cameras

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
                                  last edited by JaredBusch

                                  GoPro specifically works for broadcasting and is cheaper than the camera you listed.
                                  https://gopro.com/support/articles/best-ways-to-achieve-video-out-signal-via-hdmi

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said in analog video stream:

                                    GoPro specifically works for broadcasting and is cheaper than the camera you listed.
                                    https://gopro.com/support/articles/best-ways-to-achieve-video-out-signal-via-hdmi

                                    And GoPro image quality is amazing. I have one, as does @MarigabyFrias and @rob, and we all love them. Even a 2 or a 3 would do a great job. I have a Hero 4 Black and it is definitely significant overkill.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

                                      @JaredBusch said in analog video stream:

                                      GoPro specifically works for broadcasting and is cheaper than the camera you listed.
                                      https://gopro.com/support/articles/best-ways-to-achieve-video-out-signal-via-hdmi

                                      And GoPro image quality is amazing. I have one, as does @MarigabyFrias and @rob, and we all love them. Even a 2 or a 3 would do a great job. I have a Hero 4 Black and it is definitely significant overkill.

                                      Yes a used one from the list in the broadcast article would be even cheaper.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Hero3 would be probably the best bet and super cheap.

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                                        • Mike DavisM
                                          Mike Davis
                                          last edited by

                                          So after a few more hours working with OBS, I discovered that you can output to a second screen. You have to right click on the source window, and choose "Full Screen Projector Preview" and then select the right output depending on your system such as "Display 1"

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                                          • Mike DavisM
                                            Mike Davis
                                            last edited by

                                            I also discovered that to get a full screen output of a IP cam (in my case an old Foscam) you have to find the right URL from the manufacture. In my case it ended up being:
                                            http://username:[email protected]/videostream.cgi?&resolution=32&rate=0

                                            even though the documentation from Foscam said to use:
                                            http://192.168.0.37/videostream.cgi?user=username&pwd=password&resolution=32&rate=0

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