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    Lanier LD117 scan uploads are slow when NetBIOS disabled on remote share

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in Lanier LD117 scan uploads are slow when NetBIOS disabled on remote share:

      Does your .19 DNS server have the DNS record for this MFP?

      No, though I'm not sure why that would matter? The printer has to know how to find the name of the server, the server doesn't check the IP of the printer against DNS to find a name - I don't have any type of security for that in place.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        Well just for laughs, try and ping the MFP by it's name which is obscured.

        I'm assuming you can ping by IP address without issue.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 said in Lanier LD117 scan uploads are slow when NetBIOS disabled on remote share:

          Well just for laughs, try and ping the MFP by it's name which is obscured.

          I'm assuming you can ping by IP address without issue.

          I use a web browser to configure it. I took the above shots from the web console for the MFP.
          I can ping by IP, but not by hostname. But I don't use the hostname for anything, so that should be fine.

          Again, the OP is about a slowness issue, not a lack of connectivity issue - I do have connectivity, I just have slowness to the order of 10 times slower.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            I reached out to my VAR - they want $37/15 min for support. Yeah probably not

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              Is the slowness visible during pinging, or just using the scanner?

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
                last edited by

                Did you actually do a full power cycle on the copier? I would guess the netbios setting did not fully apply.

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                • IRJI
                  IRJ
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                  @cnewman we need your programming skills!

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
                    last edited by Dashrender

                    @JaredBusch said in Lanier LD117 scan uploads are slow when NetBIOS disabled on remote share:

                    Did you actually do a full power cycle on the copier? I would guess the netbios setting did not fully apply.

                    After making the NetBIOS change, nope, I'll do that now - good idea.

                    I rebooted it earlier, but not after the NetBIOS change.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      No change after rebooting.

                      This is just another larger picture of the window of options from above, no changes.

                      https://i.imgur.com/c9vhjjf.png

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
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                        Is this across subnets? According to a few links I'm able to find NetBIOS has been hardened which effectively breaks scanning.

                        Link 1
                        Link 2

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          Nope, all on the same subnet.

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                          • J
                            Jason Banned
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                            You are using IP of the SMB share not the hostname? if if using the hostname make sure it's FQDN not the NetBios hostname it tries WINS lookup before doing DNS and appending the search domain like that which will slow down the lookup. I'd just use IP.

                            Here we scan to email with our Ricoh's though.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by Dashrender

                              When I added DNS entries a week ago to fix the name resolution problem, I changed all the \\servername\sharename\folder into \\servername.FQDN\sharename\foldername

                              WINS is disabled (there are no IPs listed in the printers settings).

                              Once the user returned and complained about the slowness, I setup a new connection with just \\servername\sharename\folder and \\IP Address\sharename\folder both of which provided the same delays.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                I'm about to hit up one of my other machines and see if it's doing the same thing.

                                This image shows that all three machines, all are LD117 MFPs, have different versions of firmware throughout the gambit of firmwares these machines have.
                                https://i.imgur.com/VCpOSsR.png

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                                • momurdaM
                                  momurda
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                                  Sounds like it is time for wireshark to see what traffic it is actually sending.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    OK all three machines have the same slow behavior.

                                    Might try wireshark tomorrow.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                      last edited by JaredBusch

                                      @Dashrender said in Lanier LD117 scan uploads are slow when NetBIOS disabled on remote share:

                                      OK all three machines have the same slow behavior.

                                      Might try wireshark tomorrow.

                                      Or just try putting it in with the IP first and see if the problem goes away.

                                      \\1.2.3.4\share\path\here

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by Dashrender

                                        @JaredBusch said in Lanier LD117 scan uploads are slow when NetBIOS disabled on remote share:

                                        @Dashrender said in Lanier LD117 scan uploads are slow when NetBIOS disabled on remote share:

                                        OK all three machines have the same slow behavior.

                                        Might try wireshark tomorrow.

                                        Or just try putting it in with the IP first and see if the problem goes away.

                                        \\1.2.3.4\share\path\here

                                        @Dashrender said in Lanier LD117 scan uploads are slow when NetBIOS disabled on remote share:

                                        Once the user returned and complained about the slowness, I setup a new connection with just
                                        \\servername\sharename\folder
                                        and
                                        \\IP Address\sharename\folder
                                        both of which provided the same delays.

                                        Edited for clarification.

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                                        • J
                                          Jason Banned
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                                          This is not a NetBIOS issue then..

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @Jason
                                            last edited by

                                            @Jason said in Lanier LD117 scan uploads are slow when NetBIOS disabled on remote share:

                                            This is not a NetBIOS issue then..

                                            While you might have assumed I said that it was, The symptom only showed itself after this change was made. Before the user went on vacation and while she was gone, the only change that was made was that NetBIOS was disabled, and DNS added to the printer along with putting FQDN in the SMB paths for the fileshare location.

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