Preparing for the storm
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@DustinB3403 said in Preparing for the storm:
@IRJ said in Preparing for the storm:
@DustinB3403 said in Preparing for the storm:
What level is it at right now?
Category 4. The islands are supposed to weaken it to a 3.
Um... it's still a level 4 how big are the island there that will weaken it to a level 3?
You know, like the bahamas....
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@JaredBusch said in Preparing for the storm:
@DustinB3403 said in Preparing for the storm:
@IRJ said in Preparing for the storm:
@DustinB3403 said in Preparing for the storm:
What level is it at right now?
Category 4. The islands are supposed to weaken it to a 3.
Um... it's still a level 4 how big are the island there that will weaken it to a level 3?
You know, like the bahamas....
So a stiff breeze could wipe them out... gotcha...
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Just to declare the difference's between the two categories being discussed...
Category 3: Winds ranging from 111 to 130 mph cause significant damage to property, humans, and animals. Mobile and poorly constructed frame homes are often destroyed, and even well-built frame homes commonly sustain major damage. Significant damage to apartments and shopping centers (even those made of wood or steel) can be expected. Category 3 storms can also cause extensive inland flooding. Electricity and water are commonly unavailable for several days to several weeks after the storm, therefore it’s important for residents to have their own stores of canned food and water. Category 4: Winds range from 131 to 155 mph and can cause catastrophic damage to property, humans, and animals. Severe structural damage to frame homes, apartments, and shopping centers should be expected. Category 4 hurricanes often include long-term power outages and water shortages lasting from a few weeks to a few months, so again, it’s important for any remaining residents to have a significant nonperishable food and water supply at hand.So a 20 to 25MPH difference in wind speed's... of which both are very likely to kill.
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@DustinB3403 said in Preparing for the storm:
Just to declare the difference's between the two categories being discussed...
Category 3: Winds ranging from 111 to 130 mph cause significant damage to property, humans, and animals. Mobile and poorly constructed frame homes are often destroyed, and even well-built frame homes commonly sustain major damage. Significant damage to apartments and shopping centers (even those made of wood or steel) can be expected. Category 3 storms can also cause extensive inland flooding. Electricity and water are commonly unavailable for several days to several weeks after the storm, therefore it’s important for residents to have their own stores of canned food and water.
Category 4: Winds range from 131 to 155 mph and can cause catastrophic damage to property, humans, and animals. Severe structural damage to frame homes, apartments, and shopping centers should be expected. Category 4 hurricanes often include long-term power outages and water shortages lasting from a few weeks to a few months, so again, it’s important for any remaining residents to have a significant nonperishable food and water supply at hand.
So a 20 to 25MPH difference in wind speed's... of which both are very likely to kill.
It's actually a much bigger difference than what it looks. Almost everything here in Florida is built to withstand 110 mph + winds. Many things are rated at 120 or even 130. So the difference between 120MPH winds and 140MPH winds is actually huge.
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@DustinB3403 and this is in regards to sustained winds at these speeds. not gusts. that is a huge long term difference.
Also, note the terms used. "Significant" versus "Catastrophic." These terms were not chosen at random.
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@JaredBusch said in Preparing for the storm:
@DustinB3403 and this is in regards to sustained winds at these speeds. not gusts. that is a huge long term difference.
Also, note the terms used. "Significant" versus "Catastrophic." These terms were not chosen at random.
Exactly, hurricanes are always measured in sustained winds.
So this just means it's that much worse to chose to ride it out.
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@DustinB3403 said in Preparing for the storm:
@JaredBusch said in Preparing for the storm:
@DustinB3403 and this is in regards to sustained winds at these speeds. not gusts. that is a huge long term difference.
Also, note the terms used. "Significant" versus "Catastrophic." These terms were not chosen at random.
Exactly, hurricanes are always measured in sustained winds.
So this just means it's that much worse to chose to ride it out.
I am not sure what you mean.....
Wind is the easiest part to measure of a hurricane, but often storm surge and flooding can be even worse.
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@IRJ said in Preparing for the storm:
@DustinB3403 said in Preparing for the storm:
@JaredBusch said in Preparing for the storm:
@DustinB3403 and this is in regards to sustained winds at these speeds. not gusts. that is a huge long term difference.
Also, note the terms used. "Significant" versus "Catastrophic." These terms were not chosen at random.
Exactly, hurricanes are always measured in sustained winds.
So this just means it's that much worse to chose to ride it out.
I am not sure what you mean.....
Wind is the easiest part to measure of a hurricane, but often storm surge and flooding can be even worse.
Winds cause the surge and flooding though, granted the surge may carry more material a greater distance. But all you need to happen is a branch to fall on your car because of the wind and hurt / kill you or your family.
I'd be leaving.
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current track: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/153536.shtml?5-daynl#contents
NHC is still tracking this as at least a cat 3 hurricane through Friday.
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@david.wiese said in Preparing for the storm:
current track: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/153536.shtml?5-daynl#contents
NHC is still tracking this as at least a cat 3 hurricane through Friday.
Yeah the forecast is actually looking better. Earlier models had the eye making landfall and now it seems like it will stay offshore a bit.
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@IRJ The models are still not in agreement. The GFS (American model and less accurate) and the ECMWF (European model (more accurate and pinpointed superstorm sandy)) are not 100%. The GFS has the storm pushing further east and further up the coast, the ecmwf has it pushing west and making landfall in florida.
edit: I should add that this all depends on the low that is moving through the great plains right now. If that moves faster then the storm stays further off the coast, if it slows down (or stays at its current pace) the storm will make landfall further west.
I found this cool weather site (http://preview.weather.gov/edd/) where you can turn the different layers on and off. Such as the current hazards (across the US) and see any current tropical storms (tracks and intensity).
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@DustinB3403 said in Preparing for the storm:
I'd be leaving.
It's not an easy decision to make. Hurricanes are unpredictable. It is possible we could only get 40MPH winds (although unlikely). It is very possible we only get 70-90MPH winds (current forecast is calling for this. It is also somewhat possible we get the eye of the storm and could see up to 150MPH.
It is hard to make a decision based on forecasts because they change and the slightest shifting of the storm makes a a huge difference. If you leave and we only get 70MPH winds, then you lose the ability to make repairs during the storm (causing more total damage), looting becomes a real issue, and it is much easier to protect against flooding when you are home. You can move things and place sandbags in strategic places.
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@IRJ I feel you're concern, I do.
I haven't been through hurricanes (at least none that I was aware of). Just be careful, and don't wait to long to leave if you have to.
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It is humbling seeing this huge storm coming, you know where the storm is and when it is coming, but you don't exactly know where it is going to end up.
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@IRJ said in Preparing for the storm:
It is humbling seeing this huge storm coming
That's what she said...
GAH hahah sorry, had too.
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@IRJ said in Preparing for the storm:
It is humbling seeing this huge storm coming, you know where the storm is and when it is coming, but you don't exactly know where it is going to end up.
If there was a mandatory evacuation, does that mean that everybody is staying home, or are they already running for their lives?
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We went through a category 2 when we lived in Georgia. Coolest noise I've ever heard.
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@dafyre I would assume that the police are in peoples faces, guns out, making them leave.
But you know, this is no different than any other day in the south.... so I'm sure there will be people who stay, and then beg and plead for help when the surge is at the second story of their house...
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Welp, flooding is already starting to be an issue and we haven't even seen any rain from Matthew yet. It has been unusually wet here the last week and almost everyday we have seen rain going sideways.
Here is the result of today's storm and it is still raining...
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Um is that stop sign normally short, or is that already a diving pool?
