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      tiagom @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

      I suspect this topic to get worse.

      "We currently have 12*SAS 15k disks in RAID6 and hot spare (3 drives lost) in each SAN, 300Gb HDs in SAN1 (2.7TB), 600GB HDs in SAN2 (5.4 Tb)."

      No no you can only still lose two drives at once even with that hot spare.

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      • guyinpvG
        guyinpv
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        I've stopped emptying people's Recycle Bin because I keep finding out people "store stuff there" cause they "know how to find it" quickly.

        One particular boss of mine used to "store" stuff in the Recycle Bin (same with email trash) because it was so easy to just click <delete> on a file and know exactly where it went to find later. She would eventually purge trash items over a certain age.

        One too many times getting a deer-in-headlights look when someone found out I emptied the trash while cleaning up the system. "I wanted those files!!!!"

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          tiagom @guyinpv
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          @guyinpv Wow that's amazingly stupid.

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          • guyinpvG
            guyinpv @tiagom
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            @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

            @guyinpv Wow that's amazingly stupid.

            And I couldn't get them to stop. They would just chuckle "ya ya ya I know I shouldn't put stuff there, but it's just easy and fast for me to work that way..."

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              tiagom
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              If you made a script to auto empty the trash, they would stop very quickly haha.

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                travisdh1 @guyinpv
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                @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                @guyinpv Wow that's amazingly stupid.

                And I couldn't get them to stop. They would just chuckle "ya ya ya I know I shouldn't put stuff there, but it's just easy and fast for me to work that way..."

                It's easier and faster for me to just drop your paycheck into the shredder, I think I'll do that from now on.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @travisdh1
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                  @travisdh1 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                  @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                  @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                  @guyinpv Wow that's amazingly stupid.

                  And I couldn't get them to stop. They would just chuckle "ya ya ya I know I shouldn't put stuff there, but it's just easy and fast for me to work that way..."

                  It's easier and faster for me to just drop your paycheck into the shredder, I think I'll do that from now on.

                  and it saves on postage too 🙂

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                  • guyinpvG
                    guyinpv @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                    @travisdh1 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                    @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                    @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                    @guyinpv Wow that's amazingly stupid.

                    And I couldn't get them to stop. They would just chuckle "ya ya ya I know I shouldn't put stuff there, but it's just easy and fast for me to work that way..."

                    It's easier and faster for me to just drop your paycheck into the shredder, I think I'll do that from now on.

                    and it saves on postage too 🙂

                    psshh, direct deposit yo. It's 2016.

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                    • RojoLocoR
                      RojoLoco @guyinpv
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                      @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                      @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                      @travisdh1 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                      @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                      @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                      @guyinpv Wow that's amazingly stupid.

                      And I couldn't get them to stop. They would just chuckle "ya ya ya I know I shouldn't put stuff there, but it's just easy and fast for me to work that way..."

                      It's easier and faster for me to just drop your paycheck into the shredder, I think I'll do that from now on.

                      and it saves on postage too 🙂

                      psshh, direct deposit yo. It's 2016.

                      And my company finally got direct deposit... in 2016.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @guyinpv
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                        @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                        I've stopped emptying people's Recycle Bin because I keep finding out people "store stuff there" cause they "know how to find it" quickly.

                        One particular boss of mine used to "store" stuff in the Recycle Bin (same with email trash) because it was so easy to just click <delete> on a file and know exactly where it went to find later. She would eventually purge trash items over a certain age.

                        One too many times getting a deer-in-headlights look when someone found out I emptied the trash while cleaning up the system. "I wanted those files!!!!"

                        This has become incredibly common. It's insane.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @tiagom
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                          @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                          If you made a script to auto empty the trash, they would stop very quickly haha.

                          Yup, something that cleans on reboot, for example. Like how some UNIX systems make /tmp ephemeral.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            I thought by default Outlook liked to empty the trash bin? At least it used it... it warned you.. but if you clicked yet it was emptied.

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                              tiagom @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender Don't believe so, at least not what i have seen. Its a setting that needs to be enabled.

                              Probably a GPO that sets it somewhere?

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                                Dashrender @tiagom
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                                @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                @Dashrender Don't believe so, at least not what i have seen. Its a setting that needs to be enabled.

                                Probably a GPO that sets it somewhere?

                                https://i.imgur.com/DyN422x.png

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                  I thought by default Outlook liked to empty the trash bin? At least it used it... it warned you.. but if you clicked yet it was emptied.

                                  Mine does, after two years.

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                                    tiagom @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender Your screen shot shows it disabled.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      Yet another... didn't virtualize but it would have protected you. This is another one of those "unknowns" that sure, you would never guess that you would need virtualization for this reason, but it would have been all that was needed to make this a non-issue.

                                      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1782739-how-do-i-convert-server-2012-datacenter-r2-to-server-2012-datacenter

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                                      • NetworkNerdN
                                        NetworkNerd
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                                        This is my personal favorite - https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/232181-disaster-recovery-on-the-fly-is-a-disaster-waiting-to-happen?page=1. I'm sure @scottalanmiller remembers this one.

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                                          scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
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                                          @NetworkNerd I try to forget.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                            Yet another... didn't virtualize but it would have protected you. This is another one of those "unknowns" that sure, you would never guess that you would need virtualization for this reason, but it would have been all that was needed to make this a non-issue.

                                            https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1782739-how-do-i-convert-server-2012-datacenter-r2-to-server-2012-datacenter

                                            This topic here doesn't seem so bad, unless he started running production on it and then realized that the system would begin to have activation issues.

                                            Simple solution, reinstall the proper OS to the hardware, but even better, virtualize the system, and then create VMs onto it.

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