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      eneeldssi
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      Man, that would kill me. I'm about trying to help offer the best solution, and when I see someone leading someone off in the wrong direction, I feel a moral obligation to call out someone's shit.

      If the people can't handle that, or don't want you to open your mouth, you shouldn't be there.

      Not that I'm suggesting to hurt yourself financially - the world we live in tells us to make our money where we can, because if you don't someone else will swoop in and take what should have been yours... but damn, if they really don't want you to talk, why do they even have you there?

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        scottalanmiller @eneeldssi
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        @eneeldssi said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

        Man, that would kill me. I'm about trying to help offer the best solution, and when I see someone leading someone off in the wrong direction, I feel a moral obligation to call out someone's shit.

        That's a common trait in IT.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          HP MSA in DAS configuration failing whenever a host reboots.

          https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1761280-hyper-v-clustered-das-storage-goes-offline-when-one-host-is-restarted

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            tiagom
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            This will take a while to get through haha

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @tiagom
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              @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

              This will take a while to get through haha

              Yeah, it's a pretty good collection. Sadly we missed years of things and we still only notice them every so often.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                HP P2000 (MSA) ....

                Single controller failing causes both controllers to fail taking down the whole enclosure.

                https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1766518-replacing-hp-p2000-g3-sas-with-hp-msa2000-g3-sas

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Just in case it goes away, because I'm so tired of hearing people tell me that I'm insane for thinking that this is even a possibility.

                  0_1471026693039_Screenshot from 2016-08-12 14-28-42.png

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller clearly both the OP and HP are wrong, dual controllers CAN'T take out the entire enclosure. It's literally impossible..

                    Get with the program!

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
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                      I suspect this topic to get worse.

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                        tiagom @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                        I suspect this topic to get worse.

                        "We currently have 12*SAS 15k disks in RAID6 and hot spare (3 drives lost) in each SAN, 300Gb HDs in SAN1 (2.7TB), 600GB HDs in SAN2 (5.4 Tb)."

                        No no you can only still lose two drives at once even with that hot spare.

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                        • guyinpvG
                          guyinpv
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                          I've stopped emptying people's Recycle Bin because I keep finding out people "store stuff there" cause they "know how to find it" quickly.

                          One particular boss of mine used to "store" stuff in the Recycle Bin (same with email trash) because it was so easy to just click <delete> on a file and know exactly where it went to find later. She would eventually purge trash items over a certain age.

                          One too many times getting a deer-in-headlights look when someone found out I emptied the trash while cleaning up the system. "I wanted those files!!!!"

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                            tiagom @guyinpv
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                            @guyinpv Wow that's amazingly stupid.

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                            • guyinpvG
                              guyinpv @tiagom
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                              @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                              @guyinpv Wow that's amazingly stupid.

                              And I couldn't get them to stop. They would just chuckle "ya ya ya I know I shouldn't put stuff there, but it's just easy and fast for me to work that way..."

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                                tiagom
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                                If you made a script to auto empty the trash, they would stop very quickly haha.

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @guyinpv
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                                  @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                  @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                  @guyinpv Wow that's amazingly stupid.

                                  And I couldn't get them to stop. They would just chuckle "ya ya ya I know I shouldn't put stuff there, but it's just easy and fast for me to work that way..."

                                  It's easier and faster for me to just drop your paycheck into the shredder, I think I'll do that from now on.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @travisdh1
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                                    @travisdh1 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                    @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                    @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                    @guyinpv Wow that's amazingly stupid.

                                    And I couldn't get them to stop. They would just chuckle "ya ya ya I know I shouldn't put stuff there, but it's just easy and fast for me to work that way..."

                                    It's easier and faster for me to just drop your paycheck into the shredder, I think I'll do that from now on.

                                    and it saves on postage too 🙂

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                                    • guyinpvG
                                      guyinpv @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                      @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                      @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                      @guyinpv Wow that's amazingly stupid.

                                      And I couldn't get them to stop. They would just chuckle "ya ya ya I know I shouldn't put stuff there, but it's just easy and fast for me to work that way..."

                                      It's easier and faster for me to just drop your paycheck into the shredder, I think I'll do that from now on.

                                      and it saves on postage too 🙂

                                      psshh, direct deposit yo. It's 2016.

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                                      • RojoLocoR
                                        RojoLoco @guyinpv
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                                        @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        @guyinpv Wow that's amazingly stupid.

                                        And I couldn't get them to stop. They would just chuckle "ya ya ya I know I shouldn't put stuff there, but it's just easy and fast for me to work that way..."

                                        It's easier and faster for me to just drop your paycheck into the shredder, I think I'll do that from now on.

                                        and it saves on postage too 🙂

                                        psshh, direct deposit yo. It's 2016.

                                        And my company finally got direct deposit... in 2016.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @guyinpv
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                                          @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                          I've stopped emptying people's Recycle Bin because I keep finding out people "store stuff there" cause they "know how to find it" quickly.

                                          One particular boss of mine used to "store" stuff in the Recycle Bin (same with email trash) because it was so easy to just click <delete> on a file and know exactly where it went to find later. She would eventually purge trash items over a certain age.

                                          One too many times getting a deer-in-headlights look when someone found out I emptied the trash while cleaning up the system. "I wanted those files!!!!"

                                          This has become incredibly common. It's insane.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @tiagom
                                            last edited by

                                            @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                            If you made a script to auto empty the trash, they would stop very quickly haha.

                                            Yup, something that cleans on reboot, for example. Like how some UNIX systems make /tmp ephemeral.

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