Concept: Automate License Acquisition
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@tiagom said in Concept: Automate License Acquisition:
Then does it prevent the failover from occurring or do it continue after a set timeout and cause you to be not compliant on the licenses.
That would be scriptable. You could have it say it is attempting and continue the failover and send emails saying it has or hasn't gone through. Then you could be all over getting it purchased immediately. Like anything, not technically legal, but you can prove that you attempted it, put a lot of effort into buying it and as long as you completed the transaction immediately, no one would ever care that you crossed into a grey area for a few minutes. But you need to be on top of making people finish that transaction fast and not letting it slide.
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@scottalanmiller Makes sense. Also could have multiple vendors in case one fails.
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@tiagom said in Concept: Automate License Acquisition:
@scottalanmiller Makes sense. Also could have multiple vendors in case one fails.
True, but that would add a lot of complexity. One with email backup is likely quite adequate.
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In fact, it should be the vendors like Softmart that make a script like this for this kind of use case
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Im sure the vendors rather get the sales upfront
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So pretty much FlexLM with a true up for OS level stuff.
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@tiagom said in Concept: Automate License Acquisition:
Im sure the vendors rather get the sales upfront
Would rather, but they'd rather not lose the sales completely.
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@stacksofplates said in Concept: Automate License Acquisition:
So pretty much FlexLM with a true up for OS level stuff.
Yeah, or just "extremely rapid license acquisition."
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I love the idea, the simple question is how do you configure it. Per DR node to go out and purchase a license of said level?
What if you aren't able to purchase that version license any more?
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From my understanding FlexLM only handles managing floating licenses, it doesn't actually automatically purchase licenses.
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@DustinB3403 said in Concept: Automate License Acquisition:
I love the idea, the simple question is how do you configure it. Per DR node to go out and purchase a license of said level?
What if you aren't able to purchase that version license any more?
It would be very case by case, I think. It could have guidance in it, or logic. Example...
Script: I need Windows 2003 Server Standard
Logic: If 2003 is needed, buy 2016 instead and downgrade rights.
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@tiagom said in Concept: Automate License Acquisition:
From my understanding FlexLM only handles managing floating licenses, it doesn't actually automatically purchase licenses.
But with a true up you could.
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@scottalanmiller said in Concept: Automate License Acquisition:
@DustinB3403 said in Concept: Automate License Acquisition:
I love the idea, the simple question is how do you configure it. Per DR node to go out and purchase a license of said level?
What if you aren't able to purchase that version license any more?
It would be very case by case, I think. It could have guidance in it, or logic. Example...
Script: I need Windows 2003 Server Standard
Logic: If 2003 is needed, buy 2016 instead and downgrade rights.
Can you get downgrade rights that far spread?
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@stacksofplates said in Concept: Automate License Acquisition:
@tiagom said in Concept: Automate License Acquisition:
From my understanding FlexLM only handles managing floating licenses, it doesn't actually automatically purchase licenses.
But with a true up you could.
Not sure i follow.
I have several floating licensing servers and none provide any automatic purchasing feature.
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@tiagom said in Concept: Automate License Acquisition:
@stacksofplates said in Concept: Automate License Acquisition:
@tiagom said in Concept: Automate License Acquisition:
From my understanding FlexLM only handles managing floating licenses, it doesn't actually automatically purchase licenses.
But with a true up you could.
Not sure i follow.
I have several floating licensing servers and none provide any automatic purchasing feature.
A true up would give you the ability to use as many as you wanted and then pay at a later time. We have a big contract with a software company and we can essentially use as many licenses as we want but we take hourly snapshots or our licenses being used. Then it's reviewed every 6 months or so and if we are over what we signed up for we pay the overage.
FlexLM let's us set hard limits so we can control it but we could use as ma y as we want.
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@stacksofplates Oh cool I assume that is all automated? The snapshot and then the review at 6 months?
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@tiagom said in Concept: Automate License Acquisition:
@stacksofplates Oh cool I assume that is all automated? The snapshot and then the review at 6 months?
We have to submit the review but other than that ya it's all automatic.
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"Backup" or "failover" licenses is something I have never understood. Like you said, more licensing can be purchased extremely quickly. Often the approval takes longer than license acquisition.
I honestly thought my previous boss was joking when he asked me to look into it... Until he said he was serious and we talked about it... We didn't get failover licenses.
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@BBigford said in Concept: Automate License Acquisition:
Often the approval takes longer than license acquisition.
Then that is a manager deciding that being down is more important than paying for the license, even in the heat of the moment while the outage is happening. If that happens, it proves that the company felt that the lowest possible cost for risk mitigation was not worth it so the license and the failover should not happen. Easy peasy.
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@BBigford said in Concept: Automate License Acquisition:
"Backup" or "failover" licenses is something I have never understood. L
Basically there is no such thing. Feeling that there is is what makes it confusing. All usage of Windows is... well.. usage of Windows. So if you use it, you have to license it.
