What Are You Doing Right Now
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
No, but with BASH/SSH being easier, faster and more manageable than PS (debatable) it has an advantage there alone. With cross platform support (important for a platform) it gains a big one. And then XAPI takes it to another level entirely.
Agreed on all counts. Hence why I said Hyper-V is a close second.
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@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If performance is your guide, KVM has the best Windows performance. And Xen has the best Linux performance.
If ease of use is your guide, many of us find XenServer to be the easiest to learn (after VMware which is mostly only easy by not having any features.) Hyper-V is confusing enough that many people can get XS installed and working before they can even figure out what Hyper-V is
But people used to the MS ecosystem thoroughly sometimes find it easier to use because they are already using many of the Windows remote management tools, but tons of Windows Admins don't do that making Hyper-V rather confusing again.If features is your guide, XenServer and Hyper-V top the list for sure. Massive feature sets, all for free. KVM comes it right behind them. VMware isn't in the game there, unless you have insanely deep pockets.
I'm only exposed to a certain percentage of the overall posts. I guess I just saw a lot of love for Hyper-V /shrug
Guess I'm installing XenServer
I don't know if anyone that uses hyper-v here LOVES it - it's just not terrible. It's vanilla ice cream. The Ford Crown Victoria of automobiles.
It's actually pretty good. Lots of usable features and a decent interface if you're a Windows Admin. A solid choice and very close second place behind Xen/XenServer. With ever iteration Powershell is becoming more and more usable.
Agreed, we run it here.
I think you're bang on with powershell - it could have a very bright future.
To @coliver and @MattSpeller the only issue I have with Hyper-V and powershell is that so much of the wonderful powershell is essentially proprietary to every installation.
Plus I'm dealing with Hyper-V right now and yeah.... bag of something.....
What do you mean proprietary? While the verb-noun syntax is silly and ridiculously complex. It is a very well documented scripting language.
I haven't found a good usable source of "powershell scripts" that just works in most instances. What compounds this issue is that everyone and their cousin sets up Windows (and Hyper-V differently) so the script that works for them, often doesn't work for others without being customized.
Something I love about linux is that if you're doing something, you can find documentation on it, copy the steps and have the same results. Every time.
Like science.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If performance is your guide, KVM has the best Windows performance. And Xen has the best Linux performance.
If ease of use is your guide, many of us find XenServer to be the easiest to learn (after VMware which is mostly only easy by not having any features.) Hyper-V is confusing enough that many people can get XS installed and working before they can even figure out what Hyper-V is
But people used to the MS ecosystem thoroughly sometimes find it easier to use because they are already using many of the Windows remote management tools, but tons of Windows Admins don't do that making Hyper-V rather confusing again.If features is your guide, XenServer and Hyper-V top the list for sure. Massive feature sets, all for free. KVM comes it right behind them. VMware isn't in the game there, unless you have insanely deep pockets.
I'm only exposed to a certain percentage of the overall posts. I guess I just saw a lot of love for Hyper-V /shrug
Guess I'm installing XenServer
I don't know if anyone that uses hyper-v here LOVES it - it's just not terrible. It's vanilla ice cream. The Ford Crown Victoria of automobiles.
It's actually pretty good. Lots of usable features and a decent interface if you're a Windows Admin. A solid choice and very close second place behind Xen/XenServer. With ever iteration Powershell is becoming more and more usable.
Agreed, we run it here.
I think you're bang on with powershell - it could have a very bright future.
To @coliver and @MattSpeller the only issue I have with Hyper-V and powershell is that so much of the wonderful powershell is essentially proprietary to every installation.
Plus I'm dealing with Hyper-V right now and yeah.... bag of something.....
What do you mean proprietary? While the verb-noun syntax is silly and ridiculously complex. It is a very well documented scripting language.
I haven't found a good usable source of "powershell scripts" that just works in most instances. What compounds this issue is that everyone and their cousin sets up Windows (and Hyper-V differently) so the script that works for them, often doesn't work for others without being customized.
Something I love about linux is that if you're doing something, you can find documentation on it, copy the steps and have the same results. Every time.
Like science.
I haven't experienced that. Although most of the time just finding valid powershell scripts can be a pain. Most of the time I just write my own.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I haven't found a good usable source of "powershell scripts" that just works in most instances.
That's like finding a bundle of clicks for a GUI. You rarely get to use someone else's scripts for things, but PowerShell should work the same each time.
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Either way this is really a Windows issue and not so much a Powershell issue. Powershell is just a scripting language, a pretty well documented one at that,
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I haven't found a good usable source of "powershell scripts" that just works in most instances.
That's like finding a bundle of clicks for a GUI. You rarely get to use someone else's scripts for things, but PowerShell should work the same each time.
Oh I get that it would essentially be a gui at that point. And it's not what I'm looking for with powershell at all, but some times I just don't want to sit down and write my own Powershell script to perform X.
It would be great if there was just a massive library of the powershell scripts that people have created.
Lazy - I know but damn it would be nice.
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My site on C@C came up again after 9 months of outage with no way to recover. Although now it goes down every 8 minutes exactly and comes up 3 minutes later. Almost preferred the full outage.
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@scottalanmiller said
No, why would it? I think your concern here is backwards. Avoiding the correct way to do something because you think that it might break, but I have no idea why. While making a slightly risky change with a very clear reason that it might break something.
Wasn't the assumption of putting a directory in the SR working under the assumption that it should work? Why would you think that something like resizing the SR (which also should just work) would?
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@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My site on C@C came up again after 9 months of outage with no way to recover. Although now it goes down every 8 minutes exactly and comes up 3 minutes later. Almost preferred the full outage.
ROFL. Wow. I've had issues with my account there, but it usually just works most of the time... Some days it's painfully slow... Other days, It's slightly less than painfully slow.
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Getting told to install an agent for what I believe is a compliance audit on five machines. Proxy server blocks access to the given links from the users' machines...FML...
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@thanksajdotcom said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Getting told to install an agent for what I believe is a compliance audit on five machines. Proxy server blocks access to the given links from the users' machines...FML...
Complaince Audit: Fail.
Security Audit: Win?
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@thanksajdotcom said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Getting told to install an agent for what I believe is a compliance audit on five machines. Proxy server blocks access to the given links from the users' machines...FML...
Complaince Audit: Fail.
Security Audit: Win?
Not really. Facebook, etc are all still accesible.
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@thanksajdotcom said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@thanksajdotcom said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Getting told to install an agent for what I believe is a compliance audit on five machines. Proxy server blocks access to the given links from the users' machines...FML...
Complaince Audit: Fail.
Security Audit: Win?
Not really. Facebook, etc are all still accesible.
Is Facebook in the security policy?
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Today has been...interesting.
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@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My site on C@C came up again after 9 months of outage with no way to recover. Although now it goes down every 8 minutes exactly and comes up 3 minutes later. Almost preferred the full outage.
Wondering if I should waste my time spinning up a test freepbx box at cloudatcost as I have unused servers there? Granted its testing/learning only so don't care if they suddenly go belly up on me
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Today has been...interesting.
How so? ... and Interesting good... or interesting Bad?
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Today has been...interesting.
Now we have to know!
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Today has been...interesting.
How so? ... and Interesting good... or interesting Bad?
I've just been running around like a nut. It's been wild. Tomorrow I have to find every phone line in the entire place and check to see if all of the devices are capable of T.38 -- If so we are going to save a ton of money.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If performance is your guide, KVM has the best Windows performance. And Xen has the best Linux performance.
If ease of use is your guide, many of us find XenServer to be the easiest to learn (after VMware which is mostly only easy by not having any features.) Hyper-V is confusing enough that many people can get XS installed and working before they can even figure out what Hyper-V is
But people used to the MS ecosystem thoroughly sometimes find it easier to use because they are already using many of the Windows remote management tools, but tons of Windows Admins don't do that making Hyper-V rather confusing again.If features is your guide, XenServer and Hyper-V top the list for sure. Massive feature sets, all for free. KVM comes it right behind them. VMware isn't in the game there, unless you have insanely deep pockets.
I'm only exposed to a certain percentage of the overall posts. I guess I just saw a lot of love for Hyper-V /shrug
Guess I'm installing XenServer
I don't know if anyone that uses hyper-v here LOVES it - it's just not terrible. It's vanilla ice cream. The Ford Crown Victoria of automobiles.
It's actually pretty good. Lots of usable features and a decent interface if you're a Windows Admin. A solid choice and very close second place behind Xen/XenServer. With every iteration Powershell is becoming more and more usable.
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If performance is your guide, KVM has the best Windows performance. And Xen has the best Linux performance.
If ease of use is your guide, many of us find XenServer to be the easiest to learn (after VMware which is mostly only easy by not having any features.) Hyper-V is confusing enough that many people can get XS installed and working before they can even figure out what Hyper-V is
But people used to the MS ecosystem thoroughly sometimes find it easier to use because they are already using many of the Windows remote management tools, but tons of Windows Admins don't do that making Hyper-V rather confusing again.If features is your guide, XenServer and Hyper-V top the list for sure. Massive feature sets, all for free. KVM comes it right behind them. VMware isn't in the game there, unless you have insanely deep pockets.
I'm only exposed to a certain percentage of the overall posts. I guess I just saw a lot of love for Hyper-V /shrug
Guess I'm installing XenServer
I don't know if anyone that uses hyper-v here LOVES it - it's just not terrible. It's vanilla ice cream. The Ford Crown Victoria of automobiles.
It's actually pretty good. Lots of usable features and a decent interface if you're a Windows Admin. A solid choice and very close second place behind Xen/XenServer. With every iteration Powershell is becoming more and more usable.
If you consider PS for administration as making Hyper-V usable, XenServer benefits from both BASH/SSH options and the XAPI API.
Agreed, but just because BASH and SSH are fantastic doesn't mean Powershell is awful the two aren't mutually exclusive. I was pointing out how Powershell is now becoming much more usable with every update then it was in the 2008 era.
No, but with BASH/SSH being easier, faster and more manageable than PS (debatable) it has an advantage there alone. With cross platform support (important for a platform) it gains a big one. And then XAPI takes it to another level entirely.
I was recommended Fish or ZSH by a friend. Opinions?
