So we are leaving..............
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@JaredBusch said in So we are leaving..............:
I am horribly disappointed in how the US is proceeding.
It is not like this is even new to the US. Executive Order 9066 was not that damned long ago.
The US only trailed Germany by a bit.
And, I suspect, the tables would have been very much turned had it been the US outnumbered in the war rather than on the vastly weighted side of it. The US was distant, relatively safe and the Allied powers outnumbered the Axis powers dramatically. Flip that and if the US had been losing, if its neighbours had turned on it and it was fighting on US soil rather than in far distant locations I'm pretty certain that the greater horrors would have been in the US instead. Winning the war and being far removed from it did a lot to lessen the feeling of fear and panic.
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Just realized something epic about the UK Referendum..... it wasn't an actual vote and there was no self determination. Here is why....
The referendum was designed in such a way that one vote was for "Leave", the other was called "Stay" but that wasn't the determination; instead a vote for "Stay" was actually a vote for "vote again later. So let's diagram this....
10 VOTE
20 IF VOTE = STAY; GOTO 10
30 SLEEP 10
40 IF LEAVE; END -
How did the above program play out in the real world?
1973: VOTE
1973: VOTE = STAY
1973 - 2016: SLEEP
2016: VOTE
2016: VOTE = LEAVE
2016: EU ENDThis is the same as if there is a vote for "do we want democracy at all?" If you have a referendum for democracy itself, it will always follow the same path and will always, eventually, vote itself out of existence.
In this case the UK just forced a retry until their predetermined "end path" got selected. In this case it only took two tries. But no matter what, the system was designed to retry until Leave was selected. There was no other possible outcome.
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@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:
Just realized something epic about the UK Referendum..... it wasn't an actual vote and there was no self determination. Here is why....
The referendum was designed in such a way that one vote was for "Leave", the other was called "Stay" but that wasn't the determination; instead a vote for "Stay" was actually a vote for "vote again later. So let's diagram this....
10 VOTE
20 IF VOTE = STAY; GOTO 10
30 SLEEP 10
40 IF LEAVE; ENDWhat BASIC syntax is that? Normally, one would write
[LINE] IF VOTE = STAY THEN GOTO 10(Despite the fact that GOTO shouldn't be used at all, use GOSUB)
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@thwr this is why the UK wanted to get away
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@scottalanmiller Bittersweet
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http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/media/images/71517000/jpg/_71517174_uk-goldlead.jpg
It's time to move forward. The Brexit has happened. Let's embrace the future.
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Aaaaaand the meme's carry on
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Maybe they can merge with Texas!
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@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:
Maybe they can merge with Texas!
lol, I don't think that the long distance relationship would work that well.
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@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:
This is exactly what the monarch is for, to protect the country from itself - especially in cases where the voting public just can't know enough about the factors involved. And the queen understands the potential horrors of a divided Europe and what it can bring. That she hasn't acted will likely be the shame that she carries with her for centuries.
The Queen has no power. Her role is purely ceremonial. Queen Anne was the last monarch to block an act of parliament and that was in 1707!
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Sorry I created this thread and haven't said anything lol
To be honest I'm sick of looking at Facebook and seeing the same old post "thx people we are screwed" or "great here come the UK to rule the world"
The bottom line for me is it's happened so lets unite together and get through this and build a stronger UK. But deep inside I think we will never truly be "OUT" of the EU. It's is going to be interesting to see how this impacts on other places, like Scott has already mentioned Texas, and even what Scotland will do now.
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@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:
@JaredBusch said in So we are leaving..............:
I am horribly disappointed in how the US is proceeding.
It is not like this is even new to the US. Executive Order 9066 was not that damned long ago.
The US only trailed Germany by a bit.
And, I suspect, the tables would have been very much turned had it been the US outnumbered in the war rather than on the vastly weighted side of it. The US was distant, relatively safe and the Allied powers outnumbered the Axis powers dramatically. Flip that and if the US had been losing, if its neighbours had turned on it and it was fighting on US soil rather than in far distant locations I'm pretty certain that the greater horrors would have been in the US instead. Winning the war and being far removed from it did a lot to lessen the feeling of fear and panic.
Yeah, to this day most people have no idea of the real numbers involved for the different countries. In the US we're taught that it was us getting involved that turned the tables in the war, which is a joke when you get a hold of the real numbers.
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@hobbit666 said in So we are leaving..............:
The bottom line for me is it's happened so lets unite together and get through this and build a stronger UK.
I blame the Welsh
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@Carnival-Boy said in So we are leaving..............:
@hobbit666 said in So we are leaving..............:
The bottom line for me is it's happened so lets unite together and get through this and build a stronger UK.
I blame the Welsh
Don't worry I do too
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If Trump is Hitler, then Clinton is Cerci Lannister.
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@Carnival-Boy said in So we are leaving..............:
@hobbit666 said in So we are leaving..............:
The bottom line for me is it's happened so lets unite together and get through this and build a stronger UK.
I blame the Welsh
Well duh, that goes without saying!
