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      Alex Sage @FATeknollogee
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      @FATeknollogee The appliance free version is very limited. If you install from source, you get everything for free 🙂 @DustinB3403 has a guide and a script from @scottalanmiller

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      • DanpD
        Danp @Alex Sage
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        @aaronstuder I think y'all are mixing up XS and XO! ☺

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          Deleted74295 Banned @FATeknollogee
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          @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

          @scottalanmiller said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

          Auto-updating Windows drivers, the Direct Inspect API and gobs of GPU updates are the big winers, I think.

          These features are not free.., you need the Enterprise edition.
          Thought you folks said XS was free?

          XenServer - From Citrix - Free

          XenOrchestra - From a third party - Limited free and paid for editions.

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee @Deleted74295
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            @Breffni-Potter

            XenServer with the "enhanced" features like "Auto-updating Windows drivers, the Direct Inspect API & SMB support etc" is not free

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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              @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

              @Breffni-Potter

              XenServer with the "enhanced" features like "Auto-updating Windows drivers, the Direct Inspect API & SMB support etc" is not free

              XenServer is completely open source, there is nothing to be "locked away". Can you provide some evidence to the contrary?

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                Alex Sage @Deleted74295
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                @Breffni-Potter said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                XenOrchestra - From a third party - Limited free and paid for editions.

                Wrong, you can get all the features of XenOrchestra for Free (you simply have to install from source)

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403

                  Look at Chapter 3 on page 5 of this pdf
                  https://docs.citrix.com/content/dam/docs/en-us/xenserver/xenserver-7-0/downloads/xenserver-7-0-installation-guide.pdf

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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                    @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                    @DustinB3403

                    Look at Chapter 3 on page 5 of this pdf
                    https://docs.citrix.com/content/dam/docs/en-us/xenserver/xenserver-7-0/downloads/xenserver-7-0-installation-guide.pdf

                    That is the Citrix supported version which is XenServer, which is completely open source. And has access to all of the features mentioned in the documentation you've listed.

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403

                      But you need the Enterprise edition to get the "added" features

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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                        @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                        @DustinB3403

                        But you need the Enterprise edition to get the "added" features

                        You're missing what I'm saying. There is no difference between XenServer "Basic" and the Enterprise edition. Citrix is no longer developing their own version.

                        The linux foundation is developing the entire XS system. Which means everything in the Enterprise edition is available in the community edition.

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                          FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                          @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                          @DustinB3403

                          But you need the Enterprise edition to get the "added" features

                          You're missing what I'm saying. There is no difference between XenServer "Basic" and the Enterprise edition. Citrix is no longer developing their own version.

                          The linux foundation is developing the entire XS system. Which means everything in the Enterprise edition is available in the community edition.

                          Ok, I hear you.

                          1. How is Citrix able to "add" features to the Enterprise edition?
                          2. Are the download bits for the Community edition different from the Citrix edition?
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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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                            @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                            @DustinB3403 said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                            @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                            @DustinB3403

                            But you need the Enterprise edition to get the "added" features

                            You're missing what I'm saying. There is no difference between XenServer "Basic" and the Enterprise edition. Citrix is no longer developing their own version.

                            The linux foundation is developing the entire XS system. Which means everything in the Enterprise edition is available in the community edition.

                            Ok, I hear you.

                            1. How is Citrix able to "add" features to the Enterprise edition?
                            2. Are the download bits for the Community edition different from the Citrix edition?
                            1. They've released their own version with the "Enterprise" featues. Much like you or I could release our own version of Ubuntu.

                            2. They most certainly are different because Citrix has rolled their own ISO of the XenServer media. With those features baked in.

                            Neither of the above stops someone (Linux Foundation) from releasing the same exact identical ISO's for use by the public.

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                            • olivierO
                              olivier
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                              Some features are only in XenServer Enterprise Edition, like GPU sharing using advanced Intel/Nvidia stuff, some load balancing mess in a dedicated appliance and probably other extra services.

                              Basically, the only thing which is really interesting Citrix is related to XenDesktop/XenApp. For them, XenServer is the "toolbox" able to run the VM which will be, in the end, running your Windows apps remotely.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
                                last edited by JaredBusch

                                /sigh
                                I just realized that I downloaded this like a week ago now and have yet to spin up a test box.

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                                • FATeknollogeeF
                                  FATeknollogee
                                  last edited by FATeknollogee

                                  If I'm understanding you guys correctly, most of these "features" are available via the XS Community ISO..?
                                  • Automated Windows VM Driver Updates
                                  • Automatic updating of the Management Agent
                                  • Support for SMB storage
                                  • Direct Inspect APIs
                                  • Dynamic Workload Balancing
                                  • GPU Virtualization (vGPU) with NVIDIA GRID and Intel GVT-g
                                  • VMware vSphere to XenServer Conversion utilities
                                  • Intel Secure Measured Boot (TXT)
                                  • Export Pool Resource Data
                                  • In-memory read caching

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                                    scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                                    @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                    • VMware vSphere to XenServer Conversion utilities

                                    All, as far as I know. The conversion utility is not part of XS and is not provided with it. That's the only thing that I am aware of on that list not being part of the community package and is an external component anyway.

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                                    • olivierO
                                      olivier @FATeknollogee
                                      last edited by olivier

                                      @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                      If I'm understanding you guys correctly, most of these "features" are available via the XS Community ISO..?

                                      Edited your post and sorted with what I believe is in "free" XenServer vs Enterprise. I'm not 100% sure for everything, but let's say at first sight.

                                      Free :

                                      • Support for SMB storage
                                      • Export Pool Resource Data
                                      • Direct Inspect APIs <- I'm not 100% sure about it, didn't checked yet
                                      • Intel Secure Measured Boot (TXT)

                                      Enterprise:

                                      • Dynamic Workload Balancing (via a Citrix Appliance)
                                      • GPU Virtualization (vGPU) with NVIDIA GRID and Intel GVT-g (well, I don't have the hardware to try it)
                                      • In-memory read caching

                                      I don't know:

                                      • Automated Windows VM Driver Updates
                                      • Automatic updating of the Management Agent
                                      • VMware vSphere to XenServer Conversion utilities (probably provided externally, but I think it's free)

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                                      • hobbit666H
                                        hobbit666
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                                        Upgraded my lab server. Just need a 2nd lab server now to play with backup/restore and moving VM's lol

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Can't wait till our lab boxes are back online so that we can get this installed!

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                                            Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller What is the hold up?

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