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      Alex Sage @Jason
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      @Jason but didn't we just agree the DVD is now the backup? The only reason I did it was because we don't have computers with DVD drives anymore.

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        @aaronstuder said

        Do I need to buy one DVD per person that views the DVD?

        No you buy a license for that kind of purpose. Read the copy-right notice at the front of every single DVD in existence.

        A lot of commercial films are forbidden from public exhibition but you need to buy a license.

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          Deleted74295 Banned @Alex Sage
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          @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

          @Jason but didn't we just agree the DVD is now the backup? The only reason I did it was because we don't have computers with DVD drives anymore.

          Will only one person at a time be watching the video? Or can multiple people watch that copy at once on your network share.

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            Jason Banned @Alex Sage
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            @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

            @Jason but didn't we just agree the DVD is now the backup? The only reason I did it was because we don't have computers with DVD drives anymore.

            But the DVD is restricted to one use at a time, the file share for everyone isn't..

            There for it's duplication.

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              scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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              @Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

              @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

              @Jason but didn't we just agree the DVD is now the backup? The only reason I did it was because we don't have computers with DVD drives anymore.

              Will only one person at a time be watching the video? Or can multiple people watch that copy at once on your network share.

              Which adds the question, what if you put the original DVD onto a networked DVD drive? People used to do that.

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                Jason Banned @Deleted74295
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                @Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                @aaronstuder said

                Do I need to buy one DVD per person that views the DVD?

                No you buy a license for that kind of purpose. Read the copy-right notice at the front of every single DVD in existence.

                A lot of commercial films are forbidden from public exhibition but you need to buy a license.

                OSHA/Safety videos usually come with public viewing rights (within your company/entities and affiliates)

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                  scottalanmiller @Jason
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                  @Jason said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                  But the DVD is restricted to one use at a time, the file share for everyone isn't..

                  Not technically. DVDs can be multiuser, too.

                  This was a common way to buy one for many people even for floppies by 1983.

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                    Alex Sage @Deleted74295
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                    @Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                    @aaronstuder said

                    Do I need to buy one DVD per person that views the DVD?

                    No you buy a license for that kind of purpose.

                    That's no problem here, our license allows for anyone working for the company to view it.

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                      Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                      @Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                      @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                      @Jason but didn't we just agree the DVD is now the backup? The only reason I did it was because we don't have computers with DVD drives anymore.

                      Will only one person at a time be watching the video? Or can multiple people watch that copy at once on your network share.

                      Which adds the question, what if you put the original DVD onto a networked DVD drive? People used to do that.

                      The Drive would likely thrash too much to be usable anyway..

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                        scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                        @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                        That's no problem here, our license allows for anyone working for the company to view it.

                        Sure, that's common. The question becomes... how many can view it at the same time.

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                          Deleted74295 Banned
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                          The proof is in who can access the data.

                          If the data sits on my personal "server" and I am the only one to access it, that's a digital backup for me. If the data sits on a server where multiple people can access it, that's different.

                          @aaronstuder said

                          No you buy a license for that kind of purpose.

                          That's no problem here, our license allows for anyone working for the company to view it.

                          Cool. Ask the company who supplied it to you for a digital copy. 🙂

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                            scottalanmiller @Jason
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                            @Jason said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                            The Drive would likely thrash too much to be usable anyway..

                            That's the theory, but thanks to high speed drives and cache mechanisms, it takes very little to serve a LOT of video.

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                              scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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                              @Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                              The proof is in who can access the data.

                              If the data sits on my personal "server" and I am the only one to access it, that's a digital backup for me. If the data sits on a server where multiple people can access it, that's different.

                              @aaronstuder said

                              No you buy a license for that kind of purpose.

                              That's no problem here, our license allows for anyone working for the company to view it.

                              Cool. Ask the company who supplied it to you for a digital copy. 🙂

                              Well, a DVD is a digital copy. He needs a "handy" copy.

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                                scottalanmiller
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                                This is one of those tough ones where was is logical, seemingly logical and legal don't necessarily mix. It all comes down to complexities of US laws.

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                                  Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                                  Sure, that's common. The question becomes... how many can view it at the same time.

                                  The video is only shown by our safety person in the conferance room during training. There could be up to 12 people in there, but they all work for the company.

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                                    Alex Sage
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                                    Keep in mind this isn't like a $20 DVD... Each DVD is about $500 each...

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                                      JaredBusch @Alex Sage
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                                      @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                                      Sure, that's common. The question becomes... how many can view it at the same time.

                                      The video is only shown by our safety person in the conferance room during training. There could be up to 12 people in there, but they all work for the company.

                                      And that sounds like it easily falls within the license granted, but your immediate responses do not imply this.

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                                        scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                                        @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                                        Sure, that's common. The question becomes... how many can view it at the same time.

                                        The video is only shown by our safety person in the conferance room during training. There could be up to 12 people in there, but they all work for the company.

                                        That sounds fine. It's the network share and how many different display units can show it at once is the bigger concern, I think.

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                                          Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller I understand what your saying. I guess what I am saying it, what different does it make if 30 people watch it 30 times, or 30 people watch it 1 time? And if the 30 people aren't watching them it at the same time, then that's OK? How is that any different then 30 people in a conference room? All 30 people are watching it at the same time.....In this case, no ones know where the videos are located besides the safety person (and myself), but I get what your saying. There is a chance someone could stumble on them.

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                                            JaredBusch @Alex Sage
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                                            @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                                            @scottalanmiller I understand what your saying. I guess what I am saying it, what different does it make if 30 people watch it 30 times, or 30 people watch it 1 time? And if the 30 people aren't watching them it at the same time, then that's OK? In this case, no ones know where the videos are located besides the safety person (and myself), but I get what your saying. There is a chance someone could stumble on them.

                                            No one is saying that the existing laws make sense. You cannot just break the law because you do not like it. Well you can, but then you also are accepting the penalty if caught.

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