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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @coliver
      last edited by

      @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

      @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

      @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

      @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

      @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

      @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

      @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

      @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

      I think you guys have a mostly accurate assessment of my personality type. I'm sort of funny. I make sure everyone knows who I am and I have 99% positive relationships formed with everyone. I put my feelers out recently and have come up empty. Where should I be networking now? AA meetings?

      Professional events. How often are you at meet ups for your technology choices, for example?

      I'm going to Mangocon? 😄

      Check out SpiceCorps local to you. They can be iffy on content but the real reason you attend is to interact with people.

      I'll do that. They do message me pretty frequently.

      It's a full time job. You'll be working as much on this as you are at your real job.

      I'll just add it to the list of things to do:

      Wedding Planning

      Full-time job
      Studying for CCIE
      Family Expectations
      Networking
      Inevitable Death

      Is the CCIE going to advance your career? Are you looking for a career in Cisco networking?

      I'm looking into a career in networking, generally speaking. I think a lot of knowledge comes with studying those certs. That's the real objective.

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

        @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

        @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

        @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

        @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

        @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

        @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

        @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

        @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

        I think you guys have a mostly accurate assessment of my personality type. I'm sort of funny. I make sure everyone knows who I am and I have 99% positive relationships formed with everyone. I put my feelers out recently and have come up empty. Where should I be networking now? AA meetings?

        Professional events. How often are you at meet ups for your technology choices, for example?

        I'm going to Mangocon? 😄

        Check out SpiceCorps local to you. They can be iffy on content but the real reason you attend is to interact with people.

        I'll do that. They do message me pretty frequently.

        It's a full time job. You'll be working as much on this as you are at your real job.

        I'll just add it to the list of things to do:

        Wedding Planning

        Full-time job
        Studying for CCIE
        Family Expectations
        Networking
        Inevitable Death

        Is the CCIE going to advance your career? Are you looking for a career in Cisco networking?

        If so, are you hanging out non-stop with the local Cisco club(s)?

        Didn't know there was such a thing

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

          @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

          @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

          @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

          @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

          I think you guys have a mostly accurate assessment of my personality type. I'm sort of funny. I make sure everyone knows who I am and I have 99% positive relationships formed with everyone. I put my feelers out recently and have come up empty. Where should I be networking now? AA meetings?

          Professional events. How often are you at meet ups for your technology choices, for example?

          I'm going to Mangocon? 😄

          Check out SpiceCorps local to you. They can be iffy on content but the real reason you attend is to interact with people.

          I'll do that. They do message me pretty frequently.

          It's a full time job. You'll be working as much on this as you are at your real job.

          I'll just add it to the list of things to do:

          Wedding Planning

          Full-time job
          Studying for CCIE
          Family Expectations
          Networking
          Inevitable Death

          Is the CCIE going to advance your career? Are you looking for a career in Cisco networking?

          I'm looking into a career in networking, generally speaking. I think a lot of knowledge comes with studying those certs. That's the real objective.

          What a general career in networking look like?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Be aware that networking careers are widely available and pay well but are very limiting. There is no networking in the SMB field. So you'd have to make the jump to enterprise which isn't bad in and of itself, but it is going to heavily limit your options.

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

              @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

              @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

              @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

              @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

              @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

              @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

              @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

              @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

              @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

              I think you guys have a mostly accurate assessment of my personality type. I'm sort of funny. I make sure everyone knows who I am and I have 99% positive relationships formed with everyone. I put my feelers out recently and have come up empty. Where should I be networking now? AA meetings?

              Professional events. How often are you at meet ups for your technology choices, for example?

              I'm going to Mangocon? 😄

              Check out SpiceCorps local to you. They can be iffy on content but the real reason you attend is to interact with people.

              I'll do that. They do message me pretty frequently.

              It's a full time job. You'll be working as much on this as you are at your real job.

              I'll just add it to the list of things to do:

              Wedding Planning

              Full-time job
              Studying for CCIE
              Family Expectations
              Networking
              Inevitable Death

              Is the CCIE going to advance your career? Are you looking for a career in Cisco networking?

              I'm looking into a career in networking, generally speaking. I think a lot of knowledge comes with studying those certs. That's the real objective.

              What a general career in networking look like?

              Doesn't have to be specifically Cisco

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                last edited by wirestyle22

                @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                Be aware that networking careers are widely available and pay well but are very limiting. There is no networking in the SMB field. So you'd have to make the jump to enterprise which isn't bad in and of itself, but it is going to heavily limit your options.

                I worked at a major hospital before I got the job here. At the time I was making less than I do now and only doing desktop support. While working there I started supporting a few doctors offices (friends of mine) and they had 7 rounds of layoffs. I was let go due to seniority. I took this job because I wanted to use it as a learning experience where I understood all aspects of running a businesses infrastructure.

                Totally fine with enterprise.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver
                  last edited by

                  Organic Conversation derailment
                  

                  How much of the enterprise does Cisco own? I've never seen specific numbers so was curious.

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @coliver
                    last edited by wirestyle22

                    @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                    Organic Conversation derailment
                    

                    How much of the enterprise does Cisco own? I've never seen specific numbers so was curious.

                    Unsure of exact numbers but I think they are the front-runner with HP and Dell competing.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @wirestyle22
                      last edited by

                      @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                      @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                      Organic Conversation derailment
                      

                      How much of the enterprise does Cisco own? I've never seen specific numbers so was curious.

                      Unsure of exact number but I think they are the front-runner with HP and Dell competing.

                      I would think Enterasys and Juniper would be pretty big competitors. I'm not sure though I've never seen anything like this published.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @coliver
                        last edited by wirestyle22

                        @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                        @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                        Organic Conversation derailment
                        

                        How much of the enterprise does Cisco own? I've never seen specific numbers so was curious.

                        Unsure of exact number but I think they are the front-runner with HP and Dell competing.

                        I would think Enterasys and Juniper would be pretty big competitors. I'm not sure though I've never seen anything like this published.

                        Yes they are. Cisco being on top right now was the main point I was trying to get at not to include all of the competitors. My bad.

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre @wirestyle22
                          last edited by

                          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                          @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                          @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                          @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                          I think you guys have a mostly accurate assessment of my personality type. I'm sort of funny. I make sure everyone knows who I am and I have 99% positive relationships formed with everyone. I put my feelers out recently and have come up empty. Where should I be networking now? AA meetings?

                          Professional events. How often are you at meet ups for your technology choices, for example?

                          I'm going to Mangocon? 😄

                          Check out SpiceCorps local to you. They can be iffy on content but the real reason you attend is to interact with people.

                          I'll do that. They do message me pretty frequently.

                          It's a full time job. You'll be working as much on this as you are at your real job.

                          I'll just add it to the list of things to do:

                          Wedding Planning

                          Full-time job
                          Studying for CCIE
                          Family Expectations
                          Networking
                          Inevitable Death

                          Is the CCIE going to advance your career? Are you looking for a career in Cisco networking?

                          I'm looking into a career in networking, generally speaking. I think a lot of knowledge comes with studying those certs. That's the real objective.

                          This is just personal experience here... but for me, I learned far more about networking after I landed a job in it than I ever did from getting my CCNA... It's very very important that you understand the principles of it, but not that you have every command memorized (unless you want the certs).

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22 @dafyre
                            last edited by wirestyle22

                            @dafyre said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                            @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                            @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                            @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                            I think you guys have a mostly accurate assessment of my personality type. I'm sort of funny. I make sure everyone knows who I am and I have 99% positive relationships formed with everyone. I put my feelers out recently and have come up empty. Where should I be networking now? AA meetings?

                            Professional events. How often are you at meet ups for your technology choices, for example?

                            I'm going to Mangocon? 😄

                            Check out SpiceCorps local to you. They can be iffy on content but the real reason you attend is to interact with people.

                            I'll do that. They do message me pretty frequently.

                            It's a full time job. You'll be working as much on this as you are at your real job.

                            I'll just add it to the list of things to do:

                            Wedding Planning

                            Full-time job
                            Studying for CCIE
                            Family Expectations
                            Networking
                            Inevitable Death

                            Is the CCIE going to advance your career? Are you looking for a career in Cisco networking?

                            I'm looking into a career in networking, generally speaking. I think a lot of knowledge comes with studying those certs. That's the real objective.

                            This is just personal experience here... but for me, I learned far more about networking after I landed a job in it than I ever did from getting my CCNA... It's very very important that you understand the principles of it, but not that you have every command memorized (unless you want the certs).

                            I'm going to say this at the risk of triggering Scott but I haven't seen ANY jobs not require certs here. So yeah, you're probably right but I still need to get the certs to get the job. They will at least teach me conceptually. I can build from there.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
                              last edited by

                              @wirestyle22 I've applied for Jobs that say "certs required blah blah blah" but the certs don't make up for experience.

                              The certs are a sign you're willing to learn, not that you're an expert.

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
                                last edited by wirestyle22

                                @DustinB3403 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                @wirestyle22 I've applied for Jobs that say "certs required blah blah blah" but the certs don't make up for experience.

                                The certs are a sign you're willing to learn, not that you're an expert.

                                I'm not an expert. I'm a decently(?) qualified learner. I don't know if I will ever feel like I'm an expert honestly. I'm not really made that way.

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates
                                  last edited by stacksofplates

                                  I think a lot of the cert requiring is to scare away people who also wouldn't have experience. If you have experience you know you can do everything without the cert. But the kid down the road that works on people's laptops in his moms basement won't have the experience but would waste their time applying and saying he can do things when he can't.

                                  I'll be willing to bet money that they wouldn't hire someone just based on certs or really even take it into consideration.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                    last edited by

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                    Be aware that networking careers are widely available and pay well but are very limiting. There is no networking in the SMB field. So you'd have to make the jump to enterprise which isn't bad in and of itself, but it is going to heavily limit your options.

                                    I worked at a major hospital before I got the job here. At the time I was making less than I do now and only doing desktop support. While working there I started supporting a few doctors offices (friends of mine) and they had 7 rounds of layoffs. I was let go due to seniority. I took this job because I wanted to use it as a learning experience where I understood all aspects of running a businesses infrastructure.

                                    Totally fine with enterprise.

                                    Fine with it and fine being limited to it are not the same, though. Think of it in terms of long term life stability.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @coliver
                                      last edited by

                                      @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                      Organic Conversation derailment
                                      

                                      How much of the enterprise does Cisco own? I've never seen specific numbers so was curious.

                                      Sadly, a lot.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                        Be aware that networking careers are widely available and pay well but are very limiting. There is no networking in the SMB field. So you'd have to make the jump to enterprise which isn't bad in and of itself, but it is going to heavily limit your options.

                                        I worked at a major hospital before I got the job here. At the time I was making less than I do now and only doing desktop support. While working there I started supporting a few doctors offices (friends of mine) and they had 7 rounds of layoffs. I was let go due to seniority. I took this job because I wanted to use it as a learning experience where I understood all aspects of running a businesses infrastructure.

                                        Totally fine with enterprise.

                                        Fine with it and fine being limited to it are not the same, though. Think of it in terms of long term life stability.

                                        If you get into an enterprise specialty you will, in most cases, be locked into it. You are the network guy who wouldn't have applicable experience, necessarily, to work on systems or desktops.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                          last edited by

                                          @dafyre said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                          @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                          @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                          @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                          I think you guys have a mostly accurate assessment of my personality type. I'm sort of funny. I make sure everyone knows who I am and I have 99% positive relationships formed with everyone. I put my feelers out recently and have come up empty. Where should I be networking now? AA meetings?

                                          Professional events. How often are you at meet ups for your technology choices, for example?

                                          I'm going to Mangocon? 😄

                                          Check out SpiceCorps local to you. They can be iffy on content but the real reason you attend is to interact with people.

                                          I'll do that. They do message me pretty frequently.

                                          It's a full time job. You'll be working as much on this as you are at your real job.

                                          I'll just add it to the list of things to do:

                                          Wedding Planning

                                          Full-time job
                                          Studying for CCIE
                                          Family Expectations
                                          Networking
                                          Inevitable Death

                                          Is the CCIE going to advance your career? Are you looking for a career in Cisco networking?

                                          I'm looking into a career in networking, generally speaking. I think a lot of knowledge comes with studying those certs. That's the real objective.

                                          This is just personal experience here... but for me, I learned far more about networking after I landed a job in it than I ever did from getting my CCNA... It's very very important that you understand the principles of it, but not that you have every command memorized (unless you want the certs).

                                          The CCNA doesn't cover all that much, in reality.

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22 @stacksofplates
                                            last edited by

                                            @johnhooks said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                            I think a lot of the cert requiring is to scare away people who also wouldn't have experience. If you have experience you know you can do everything without the cert. But the kid down the road that works on people's laptops in his moms basement won't have the experience. I'll be willing to bet money that they wouldn't hire someone just based on certs or really even take it into consideration.

                                            I guess I'm making an incorrect assumption where applying to a job I don't have certs for would result in me not getting an interview where you are saying my experience, which on paper does look great, would outweigh any certifications.

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