It's a turrible day. Just turrible!
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@scottalanmiller said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@DustinB3403 said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Yeah it's not the greatest tool out there, but the integration with Outlook is pretty awesome. Plus if you have businesses you deal with that use it you can incorporation the SfB systems so you can message across domains.
We never found anyone that would do that and the functionality was so poor that we gave up on it.
Ya it was corporate IT that set it up. I've literally sent like 4 messages in it, but I can see everyone's status in SP and Outlook.
I don't know if you can see anything else or just their status. I haven't played with it.
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@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Migrated away from what?
I cannot legally discuss that part...
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@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Migrated away from what?
I cannot legally discuss that part...
can you discuss why you can't discuss it?
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@BBigford said
Anyone else doing something they don't want to do lately? Anything goes...
Returning to work today after vacation 100% counts.
Honestly though today has been awesome so I really can't complain too much
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@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Migrated away from what?
I cannot legally discuss that part...
can you discuss why you can't discuss it?
It would put the company I work for in a bad spot should someone run across this thread.
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@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Migrated away from what?
I cannot legally discuss that part...
can you discuss why you can't discuss it?
I could discuss it, but if the company got in trouble and it linked back to me leaking the information, I'd lose my job. Pretty harsh state to work in if you work in the private sector. You can get fired for anything here.
It really comes down to poor ethics over a decade. I have been here since August and we finally got things on a more ethical level.
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@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Migrated away from what?
I cannot legally discuss that part...
can you discuss why you can't discuss it?
I could discuss it, but if the company got in trouble and it linked back to me leaking the information, I'd lose my job. Pretty harsh state to work in if you work in the private sector. You can get fired for anything here.
It really comes down to poor ethics over a decade. I have been here since August and we finally got things on a more ethical level.
Bet that feels good!
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@MattSpeller said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Migrated away from what?
I cannot legally discuss that part...
can you discuss why you can't discuss it?
I could discuss it, but if the company got in trouble and it linked back to me leaking the information, I'd lose my job. Pretty harsh state to work in if you work in the private sector. You can get fired for anything here.
It really comes down to poor ethics over a decade. I have been here since August and we finally got things on a more ethical level.
Bet that feels good!
Sorry, no. It's more of a wash than feeling bad or good.
The compromise was to purchase Skype for Business after I had setup RocketChat & OpenFire inside of a week. That got shut down in about 10 seconds after it was decided we'd use SfB. Two of us threatened to quit if they didn't make a move, just so happened that that move was toward SfB.
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Either OpenFire or RocketChat would have worked out great. Way better than SfB in fact.
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@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Migrated away from what?
I cannot legally discuss that part...
can you discuss why you can't discuss it?
I could discuss it, but if the company got in trouble and it linked back to me leaking the information, I'd lose my job. Pretty harsh state to work in if you work in the private sector. You can get fired for anything here.
It really comes down to poor ethics over a decade. I have been here since August and we finally got things on a more ethical level.
@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Migrated away from what?
I cannot legally discuss that part...
can you discuss why you can't discuss it?
I could discuss it, but if the company got in trouble and it linked back to me leaking the information, I'd lose my job. Pretty harsh state to work in if you work in the private sector. You can get fired for anything here.
It really comes down to poor ethics over a decade. I have been here since August and we finally got things on a more ethical level.
Well that sounds like a good thing.
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@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Either OpenFire or RocketChat would have worked out great. Way better than SfB in fact.
So we can learn from your experience - what was the driver to go to SfB? Did anyone stop to read a review of it? EEeeuuuuggghhhhhhhhhhh
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@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Either OpenFire or RocketChat would have worked out great. Way better than SfB in fact.
do you only need a chat client?
OK I see what you're saying here. yeah a customer of mine a long time ago was illegally using Office. I told them that they had to buy 10+ copies of Office or my company would no longer support them. I'm sure they read between the lines that an audit would be coming too. They quickly, though complainingly, pulled out the checkbook.
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@MattSpeller said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Either OpenFire or RocketChat would have worked out great. Way better than SfB in fact.
So we can learn from your experience - what was the driver to go to SfB? Did anyone stop to read a review of it? EEeeuuuuggghhhhhhhhhhh
Oh no we had a long conversation about it. I kept saying "it's an absolutely awful product. Buying Skype for Business will not undo what has been done in the last 10 years. We can't correct that situation short of <omitted>, except the legal department says we can't even do that because we would admit fault."
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@MattSpeller said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Either OpenFire or RocketChat would have worked out great. Way better than SfB in fact.
So we can learn from your experience - what was the driver to go to SfB? Did anyone stop to read a review of it? EEeeuuuuggghhhhhhhhhhh
But in the end, it was decided we can't undo what they did for a decade, but we can start doing the right thing. I am completely against SfB.
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@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Either OpenFire or RocketChat would have worked out great. Way better than SfB in fact.
do you only need a chat client?
OK I see what you're saying here. yeah a customer of mine a long time ago was illegally using Office. I told them that they had to buy 10+ copies of Office or my company would no longer support them. I'm sure they read between the lines that an audit would be coming too. They quickly, though complainingly, pulled out the checkbook.
Good on you. I quit a job because we were distributing bootleg copies of Office, out of the repair shop!!! I had one come back and I said "hey $owner, I removed a pirated copy from so-and-so's machine. They need to purchase a copy, so if you'd include that on the quote please."
$owner: What?! Put that back on!
Me: It was throwing errors that it was pirated. We can't support pirated software.
$owner: I put that on there, just run the activation that is out on the NAS.
Me: YOU HAVE AN ILLEGAL ACTIVATOR ON THE NETWORK??? That puts at more of a risk during an audit!!!
I ended up quitting.
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@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Either OpenFire or RocketChat would have worked out great. Way better than SfB in fact.
do you only need a chat client?
OK I see what you're saying here. yeah a customer of mine a long time ago was illegally using Office. I told them that they had to buy 10+ copies of Office or my company would no longer support them. I'm sure they read between the lines that an audit would be coming too. They quickly, though complainingly, pulled out the checkbook.
Just a chat client 95% of the time... the other 5% is made up of screen sharing (can use other software for that though) and 1% doing video/voice conferencing.
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@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@MattSpeller said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Either OpenFire or RocketChat would have worked out great. Way better than SfB in fact.
So we can learn from your experience - what was the driver to go to SfB? Did anyone stop to read a review of it? EEeeuuuuggghhhhhhhhhhh
Oh no we had a long conversation about it. I kept saying "it's an absolutely awful product. Buying Skype for Business will not undo what has been done in the last 10 years. We can't correct that situation short of <omitted>, except the legal department says we can't even do that because we would admit fault."
Leaving Lync would admit fault? WTF? How do they come to that logic? So what, they are saying that no one has ever left Lync/SfB because they were crappy products? lol sigh. feel for ya bro.
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@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@MattSpeller said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Either OpenFire or RocketChat would have worked out great. Way better than SfB in fact.
So we can learn from your experience - what was the driver to go to SfB? Did anyone stop to read a review of it? EEeeuuuuggghhhhhhhhhhh
Oh no we had a long conversation about it. I kept saying "it's an absolutely awful product. Buying Skype for Business will not undo what has been done in the last 10 years. We can't correct that situation short of <omitted>, except the legal department says we can't even do that because we would admit fault."
Leaving Lync would admit fault? WTF? How do they come to that logic? So what, they are saying that no one has ever left Lync/SfB because they were crappy products? lol sigh. feel for ya bro.
No no, not leaving Lync would admit fault. Never said anything along those lines as that wouldn't even make sense. You're going in the wrong direction with that thought. I can't say what would admit fault for something.
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@Dashrender said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@MattSpeller said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
@BBigford said in It's a turrible day. Just turrible!:
Either OpenFire or RocketChat would have worked out great. Way better than SfB in fact.
So we can learn from your experience - what was the driver to go to SfB? Did anyone stop to read a review of it? EEeeuuuuggghhhhhhhhhhh
Oh no we had a long conversation about it. I kept saying "it's an absolutely awful product. Buying Skype for Business will not undo what has been done in the last 10 years. We can't correct that situation short of <omitted>, except the legal department says we can't even do that because we would admit fault."
Leaving Lync would admit fault? WTF? How do they come to that logic? So what, they are saying that no one has ever left Lync/SfB because they were crappy products? lol sigh. feel for ya bro.
When I quit some day, I can probably talk about what happened. All I can say is we are fully compliant with all terms and conditions regarding any software on the network. Not sure if its too little too late for me to want to stay... I'm undecided.
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It's probably worth noting that 1/3 of the management that were making those decisions are no longer employed with the company. Not because of those decisions, they left on their own regard for other reasons.
