Free to Good Home: Thunderbird
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The Mozilla Foundation feels that Thunderbird does not fit within its oversight any longer and is actively seeking someone to take over the project.
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I was never really a big fan. Idk why, evolution just always felt better to me. And natively supports exchange.
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@johnhooks said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
I was never really a big fan. Idk why, evolution just always felt better to me. And natively supports exchange.
Huh is evolution free? If so, who pays the activesync license fee? Or does it old school mapi?
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@Dashrender said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
@johnhooks said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
I was never really a big fan. Idk why, evolution just always felt better to me. And natively supports exchange.
Huh is evolution free? If so, who pays the activesync license fee? Or does it old school mapi?
Ya it's free, and ya it uses mapi.
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Do people still use it?
I stopped using it at home coz webmail got better and I hated:- the configuration
- downloading messages that are easily lost/unrecoverably deleted (also deleted from mail server to stop the mailbox filling up)
Also, it just feels like an unnecessary final hop for my email.
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@nadnerB said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
Do people still use it?
I stopped using it at home coz webmail got better and I hated:- the configuration
- downloading messages that are easily lost/unrecoverably deleted (also deleted from mail server to stop the mailbox filling up)
Also, it just feels like an unnecessary final hop for my email.
Do people still use Outlook? Same difference.
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In saying that not everyone has a decent webmail interface available to them, so for them I can see value but Evolution comes baked into some Linux distros, so why switch?
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@scottalanmiller said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
@nadnerB said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
Do people still use it?
I stopped using it at home coz webmail got better and I hated:- the configuration
- downloading messages that are easily lost/unrecoverably deleted (also deleted from mail server to stop the mailbox filling up)
Also, it just feels like an unnecessary final hop for my email.
Do people still use Outlook? Same difference.
The Exchange 2010 web interface is pretty crap. That's why I use Outlook at work.
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If you use Evolution connected to an Exchange Server / O365, it works, just like Outlook in that same scenario... Emails live on the server and are generally cached on your local device.
For those who prefer an email client, it's great.
That said, I prefer Thunderbird over Evolution (even without is exchange integration) because Thunderbird was always faster to me... But now that we have good webmail options (Gmail / O365), I find myself desiring an email client less and less.
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I just haven't found a webmail option I like better than Outlook.
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@scottalanmiller said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
@nadnerB said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
Do people still use it?
I stopped using it at home coz webmail got better and I hated:- the configuration
- downloading messages that are easily lost/unrecoverably deleted (also deleted from mail server to stop the mailbox filling up)
Also, it just feels like an unnecessary final hop for my email.
Do people still use Outlook? Same difference.
Not at all. OWA isn't 100% feature parity to Outlook. So there is reason to use the full client.
But most home users are just fine with browser based email.I converted from client to web based over 10 years ago at home. When I had my own company also browser based access.
I use outlook in my office simply because its there. But I'm looking to move everyone to Outlook on the Web soon.
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@Dashrender said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
@scottalanmiller said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
@nadnerB said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
Do people still use it?
I stopped using it at home coz webmail got better and I hated:- the configuration
- downloading messages that are easily lost/unrecoverably deleted (also deleted from mail server to stop the mailbox filling up)
Also, it just feels like an unnecessary final hop for my email.
Do people still use Outlook? Same difference.
Not at all. OWA isn't 100% feature parity to Outlook. So there is reason to use the full client.
But most home users are just fine with browser based email.I converted from client to web based over 10 years ago at home. When I had my own company also browser based access.
I use outlook in my office simply because its there. But I'm looking to move everyone to Outlook on the Web soon.
How is that not the same as Thunderbird, though?
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What do you mean?
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@brianlittlejohn said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
I just haven't found a webmail option I like better than Outlook.
I really like GMail's interface for the things they do well.
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@dafyre I have a real hard time trusting google....lol
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@brianlittlejohn said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
@dafyre I have a real hard time trusting google....lol
Me too. I had them before I knew not to trust them so... meh. I really like the way their web interface works, for the most part.
If I could get a web based something that had feature parity with Outlook with the ease of use of Google's Keyboard shortcuts, , I'd switch in a heartbeat... IE:
I don't need the ribbon, but I want to be able to see my folders, my email, and my task list all on one screen. Give me that and I would ditch Outlook.
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@dafyre said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
@brianlittlejohn said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
I just haven't found a webmail option I like better than Outlook.
I really like GMail's interface for the things they do well.
I like ice cream and coffee. Together they make affogato.
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@nadnerB said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
@dafyre said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
@brianlittlejohn said in Free to Good Home: Thunderbird:
I just haven't found a webmail option I like better than Outlook.
I really like GMail's interface for the things they do well.
I like ice cream and coffee. Together they make affogato.
Great... now I'm going to have to try this now.
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Scott would tell you to use tags instead of folders.. and I'm starting to really like that idea. one massive folder, but use tags.. of course tags are only useful as long as you can see the pre existing tags.
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When Thunderbird started including that damn calendar, I stopped using it, because when it ran after the update which included it (without asking me) it locked up my computer*. In fact, it locked up my computer when I tried to open it after that. It was the strangest thing. If I managed to get the calendar to stop working, that didn't happen, so I believe it was something to do with it and drivers for my PC, because even with a new hard drive and another install of Windows, still happened. The unfortunate part is that I was never able to properly dump it or anything in order to figure out what was happening, so it remains a mystery. If anyone has heard of this, I'm curious as to what it is exactly.
It wasn't a bad email client overall though. It seems to me that some sort of generic web based email client akin to gmail would be neat. There are things like it, but none fully support multiple mailboxes equally like Thunderbird.
*When I say locked, I mean completely deadlocked, even numlock stopped working, mouse, etc with video frozen in time. Twice I even let it sit there for about an hour to see what would happen, nothing other than my clock being wrong.