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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      I know paper maps are rough in a digital age, but choosing to rely on technology in such far to reach places where big business doesn't have an interest isn't big businesses fault.

      I wouldn't call the downtown intersection of a major capital city an out of the way place or a place where there isn't big business. Deutsche Telekom tower is on the intersection, as is the national opera and a municipal renovation project that puts Disney World to shame.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        If there was money to made there, then there would be effort to develop those area's and the tech in the region.

        Remember, this is a region that has been Internet than where you are from 🙂 I'm in a city four times the size of Rochester, with vastly better Internet.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          And I'm only 20 minutes away from the largest US military base in Europe.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller Better internet doesn't equate to better value for google to pay people to drive the streets in the area like they do in the US /UK.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Here is what it looks like just behind where Google has the roads dangerously wrong..

              skopje

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @scottalanmiller Better internet doesn't equate to better value for google to pay people to drive the streets in the area like they do in the US /UK.

                Far easily to pay them here. And Google's dangerously inaccurate data here impacts their business in the US, too. I'd find it unlikely that they are avoiding it, my concern is that it is wrong.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
                  last edited by DustinB3403

                  I'm not saying that there aren't pluses to the area, but that big business has little reason to invest in things like google maps for the region.

                  Google has probably only once or twice looked at the region (from a Google Maps perspective) and never thought about it since.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    Might I suggest you make a recommendation regarding the Google Maps conditions here.

                    https://www.google.com/mapmaker

                    Enter the country / city and the details you know are wrong.

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                    • brianlittlejohnB
                      brianlittlejohn @dafyre
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                      @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @dafyre said

                      You should get one of those Google Cars and let them do the driving for you!

                      Make sure to put it on super aggressive driving mode, otherwise wherever you're headed to will take an extra 12 hours...

                      I'm concerned about using a Google Car given what Google GPS does. Routinely it takes us on things that aren't roads, into dangerous situations and on roads that take twice as long as the normal route you'd just pick by looking at a map.

                      I've never had Google send me down something that isn't a road... but it has definitely gotten lost in the town square, lol.

                      I've had google try to send me over an unpaved mountain pass before, luckily I check the routes I drive before I drive them.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @brianlittlejohn
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                        @brianlittlejohn said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @dafyre said

                        You should get one of those Google Cars and let them do the driving for you!

                        Make sure to put it on super aggressive driving mode, otherwise wherever you're headed to will take an extra 12 hours...

                        I'm concerned about using a Google Car given what Google GPS does. Routinely it takes us on things that aren't roads, into dangerous situations and on roads that take twice as long as the normal route you'd just pick by looking at a map.

                        I've never had Google send me down something that isn't a road... but it has definitely gotten lost in the town square, lol.

                        I've had google try to send me over an unpaved mountain pass before, luckily I check the routes I drive before I drive them.

                        If a turn looks funky, I simply won't take it. If I'm not expecting a dirt road, or it looks like it will take a 4x4 to get through, I simply ignore it when it tells me to turn that way and eventually it rights itself.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          I'm not saying that there aren't pluses to the area, but that big business has little reason to invest in things like google maps for the region.

                          Google has probably only once or twice looked at the region (from a Google Maps perspective) and never thought about it since.

                          Except we know that that isn't the issue. The cars have pictures of roads that have been closed for twenty years or more. They show current construction. So they've been here quite recently, maybe within a few months. These roads had to be closed before Google was even a company - the buildings where the road should be, while not ancient, are certainly quite old. I would guess 40+ years but no way to be sure, but 20 years I can't see how it would be younger than that.

                          All over the region the issue is not that the maps are out of date, it's that Google's mapping algorithms are just insane. Dirt roads or back streets instead of highways, that Google knows about. Crazy winding roads to avoid 1/10th of a mile on a highway. It's bizarre and insane.

                          But their maps are up to date, just the logic telling you where to go is broken.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            Might I suggest you make a recommendation regarding the Google Maps conditions here.

                            https://www.google.com/mapmaker

                            Enter the country / city and the details you know are wrong.

                            It's everywhere, it's the decision making of their GPS that is primarily what is wrong.

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                            • brianlittlejohnB
                              brianlittlejohn @dafyre
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                              @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @brianlittlejohn said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @dafyre said

                              You should get one of those Google Cars and let them do the driving for you!

                              Make sure to put it on super aggressive driving mode, otherwise wherever you're headed to will take an extra 12 hours...

                              I'm concerned about using a Google Car given what Google GPS does. Routinely it takes us on things that aren't roads, into dangerous situations and on roads that take twice as long as the normal route you'd just pick by looking at a map.

                              I've never had Google send me down something that isn't a road... but it has definitely gotten lost in the town square, lol.

                              I've had google try to send me over an unpaved mountain pass before, luckily I check the routes I drive before I drive them.

                              If a turn looks funky, I simply won't take it. If I'm not expecting a dirt road, or it looks like it will take a 4x4 to get through, I simply ignore it when it tells me to turn that way and eventually it rights itself.

                              I'm the same way.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                Might I suggest you make a recommendation regarding the Google Maps conditions here.

                                https://www.google.com/mapmaker

                                Enter the country / city and the details you know are wrong.

                                It's everywhere, it's the decision making of their GPS that is primarily what is wrong.

                                That's hard to do in the dark, it's not like I can look at the map, my wife has to navigate and she can't read maps so she doesn't tell me when Google has gone nuts. I'm to the point that I won't let her turn it on because she tends to think that the GPS might be useful and it's worse than not having it at this point.

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  Might I suggest you make a recommendation regarding the Google Maps conditions here.

                                  https://www.google.com/mapmaker

                                  Enter the country / city and the details you know are wrong.

                                  It's everywhere, it's the decision making of their GPS that is primarily what is wrong.

                                  That's hard to do in the dark, it's not like I can look at the map, my wife has to navigate and she can't read maps so she doesn't tell me when Google has gone nuts. I'm to the point that I won't let her turn it on because she tends to think that the GPS might be useful and it's worse than not having it at this point.

                                  You should be teaching your wife (and kids) how to read maps! Lol.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                    last edited by

                                    @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    Might I suggest you make a recommendation regarding the Google Maps conditions here.

                                    https://www.google.com/mapmaker

                                    Enter the country / city and the details you know are wrong.

                                    It's everywhere, it's the decision making of their GPS that is primarily what is wrong.

                                    That's hard to do in the dark, it's not like I can look at the map, my wife has to navigate and she can't read maps so she doesn't tell me when Google has gone nuts. I'm to the point that I won't let her turn it on because she tends to think that the GPS might be useful and it's worse than not having it at this point.

                                    You should be teaching your wife (and kids) how to read maps! Lol.

                                    Good luck. My wife can't tell right from left (I'm serious, she will tell you) and even if she could read the map (never going to happen, she just can't see it) she can't relay directions as she can't handle right/left or NSEW directions.

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      Might I suggest you make a recommendation regarding the Google Maps conditions here.

                                      https://www.google.com/mapmaker

                                      Enter the country / city and the details you know are wrong.

                                      It's everywhere, it's the decision making of their GPS that is primarily what is wrong.

                                      That's hard to do in the dark, it's not like I can look at the map, my wife has to navigate and she can't read maps so she doesn't tell me when Google has gone nuts. I'm to the point that I won't let her turn it on because she tends to think that the GPS might be useful and it's worse than not having it at this point.

                                      You should be teaching your wife (and kids) how to read maps! Lol.

                                      Good luck. My wife can't tell right from left (I'm serious, she will tell you) and even if she could read the map (never going to happen, she just can't see it) she can't relay directions as she can't handle right/left or NSEW directions.

                                      In that case, she can ride in the back seat while one of your kids rides in the front and tells you where to go, lol.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        Might I suggest you make a recommendation regarding the Google Maps conditions here.

                                        https://www.google.com/mapmaker

                                        Enter the country / city and the details you know are wrong.

                                        It's everywhere, it's the decision making of their GPS that is primarily what is wrong.

                                        That's hard to do in the dark, it's not like I can look at the map, my wife has to navigate and she can't read maps so she doesn't tell me when Google has gone nuts. I'm to the point that I won't let her turn it on because she tends to think that the GPS might be useful and it's worse than not having it at this point.

                                        You should be teaching your wife (and kids) how to read maps! Lol.

                                        Good luck. My wife can't tell right from left (I'm serious, she will tell you) and even if she could read the map (never going to happen, she just can't see it) she can't relay directions as she can't handle right/left or NSEW directions.

                                        I have this issue too... I can generally find my way around a town/city that I've been in a few times before. But reading a map is damn near impossible.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                          last edited by

                                          @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          Might I suggest you make a recommendation regarding the Google Maps conditions here.

                                          https://www.google.com/mapmaker

                                          Enter the country / city and the details you know are wrong.

                                          It's everywhere, it's the decision making of their GPS that is primarily what is wrong.

                                          That's hard to do in the dark, it's not like I can look at the map, my wife has to navigate and she can't read maps so she doesn't tell me when Google has gone nuts. I'm to the point that I won't let her turn it on because she tends to think that the GPS might be useful and it's worse than not having it at this point.

                                          You should be teaching your wife (and kids) how to read maps! Lol.

                                          Good luck. My wife can't tell right from left (I'm serious, she will tell you) and even if she could read the map (never going to happen, she just can't see it) she can't relay directions as she can't handle right/left or NSEW directions.

                                          In that case, she can ride in the back seat while one of your kids rides in the front and tells you where to go, lol.

                                          Motion sickness. I can't win.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @coliver
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                                            @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            Might I suggest you make a recommendation regarding the Google Maps conditions here.

                                            https://www.google.com/mapmaker

                                            Enter the country / city and the details you know are wrong.

                                            It's everywhere, it's the decision making of their GPS that is primarily what is wrong.

                                            That's hard to do in the dark, it's not like I can look at the map, my wife has to navigate and she can't read maps so she doesn't tell me when Google has gone nuts. I'm to the point that I won't let her turn it on because she tends to think that the GPS might be useful and it's worse than not having it at this point.

                                            You should be teaching your wife (and kids) how to read maps! Lol.

                                            Good luck. My wife can't tell right from left (I'm serious, she will tell you) and even if she could read the map (never going to happen, she just can't see it) she can't relay directions as she can't handle right/left or NSEW directions.

                                            I have this issue too... I can generally find my way around a town/city that I've been in a few times before. But reading a map is damn near impossible.

                                            I'm TRYING to train my wife to keep useful information up on the screen and show it to me quickly when at intersections or whatever. I can normally read a map and memorize what I need in a second or two, literally. But Google Maps refuses to show scale which makes gauging distances very hard. but other than that, two seconds looking at a map is more useful that GPS or her trying to tell me what it says.

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