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    Convert Hyper-V Gen1 to Gen2... is it easy?

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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said:

      There is a tool to do just this..... https://code.msdn.microsoft.com/windowsdesktop/Convert-VMGeneration-81ddafa2

      That is not converting. That creates a new VM. It is 100% not a conversion.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        Not to be rude @JaredBusch but did you read it?

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said:

          Not to be rude @JaredBusch but did you read it?

          Yes, you on the other hand, apparently did not.

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            LAH3385 @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said:

            Not to be rude @JaredBusch but did you read it?

            Judging from the screenshot on the post I have to say it doesn't not look like conversion, but cloning instead
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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
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              Semantics aside, cloning tool or "creating a new boot disk" you still get the same end result.

              A version 2 VM.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                last edited by gjacobse

                @DustinB3403 said:

                Semantics aside, cloning tool or "creating a new boot disk" you still get the same end result.

                A version 2 VM.

                Glossing over shit is how people f[moderated] shit up.

                If that is the only end result, then yes.
                But the specific question was asked to "convert"

                Cloning means you are duplicating space used. Converting will generally not.

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                  LAH3385
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                  Let's not get too technical.. My real question is the ability to expand/shrink on the fly/VM stay online. I know for a fact that Gen1 cannot do that.. thus the question about conversion.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @LAH3385
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                    @LAH3385 said:

                    Let's not get too technical.. My real question is the ability to expand/shrink on the fly/VM stay online. I know for a fact that Gen1 cannot do that.. thus the question about conversion.

                    But do you have teh space for two copies during the operation? That's a key piece of why it is important.

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                      LAH3385 @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by LAH3385

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @LAH3385 said:

                      Let's not get too technical.. My real question is the ability to expand/shrink on the fly/VM stay online. I know for a fact that Gen1 cannot do that.. thus the question about conversion.

                      But do you have teh space for two copies during the operation? That's a key piece of why it is important.

                      Good question... we are 60% of the disk at the moment... so that would be no. The space inside VM it self is 50% full.. Say 2TB disk space on hypervisor. the VM is uing 1.2TB. But the OS/Files is using only 600GB out of 1.2TB.
                      If the cloning means 100% identical then I will not have enough space. But if there is a way to shrink while cloning then it is a viable option.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @LAH3385
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                        @LAH3385 said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @LAH3385 said:

                        Let's not get too technical.. My real question is the ability to expand/shrink on the fly/VM stay online. I know for a fact that Gen1 cannot do that.. thus the question about conversion.

                        But do you have teh space for two copies during the operation? That's a key piece of why it is important.

                        Good question... we are 60% of the disk at the moment... so that would be no.

                        See..... these things aren't details, they are super important.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @LAH3385
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                          @LAH3385 said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @LAH3385 said:

                          Let's not get too technical.. My real question is the ability to expand/shrink on the fly/VM stay online. I know for a fact that Gen1 cannot do that.. thus the question about conversion.

                          But do you have teh space for two copies during the operation? That's a key piece of why it is important.

                          Good question... we are 60% of the disk at the moment... so that would be no. The space inside VM it self is 50% full.. Say 2TB disk space on hypervisor. the VM is uing 1.2TB. But the OS/Files is using only 600GB out of 1.2TB.
                          If the cloning means 100% identical then I will not have enough space. But if there is a way to shrink while cloning then it is a viable option.

                          This also means you're using thick provisioning.

                          Perhaps you can copy the current VM disk to another VM disk, but one that is thin provisioned. Then it will only take up 600 GB on the disk, leaving you with 2 GB free space until you delete the old VM disk.

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