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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @MattSpeller
      last edited by

      @MattSpeller said:

      @Dashrender said:

      now if only there was a way to get the registry change into the ISO... LOL

      OOBE it, shut it off, image it with DD. Presto, ISO 😄
      (you never said you wanted an install disk...)

      You're so witty, See we don't need Scott around all the time 😛

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      • J
        Jason Banned @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said:

        now if only there was a way to get the registry change into the ISO... LOL

        Have you checked https://www.ntlite.com/features/ to see if it can?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @Jason
          last edited by

          @Jason said:

          @Dashrender said:

          now if only there was a way to get the registry change into the ISO... LOL

          Have you checked https://www.ntlite.com/features/ to see if it can?

          No, not really, because I'm only half serious about it.

          though I do believe there is a file you can include in the root of the DVD/USB drive that Windows will read during install - at least I think this function was something that existed a long time ago. - that might be able to do this...

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @Dashrender just tried this and it failed

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @JaredBusch
              last edited by JaredBusch

              @JaredBusch said:

              @Dashrender just tried this and it failed

              Because I missed adding the CloudContent key prior to adding the dword.

              Windows updates in process no crapware yet.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
                last edited by gjacobse

                Clean install did reg hack, nothing added, sysprep worked perfectly.

                made image and pushed onto test desktop. worked perfectly.

                rolled VM back to pre-sysprep and then installed Office, and a bunch of other software.

                sysprep ran perfectly.

                made image and pushed onto test desktop. windows failed to install correctly.

                f[moderated] it all...

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  how did it fail?

                  Can you provide a full list of installed software?

                  Did the VM boot backup after the sysprep?

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    Did the VM boot backup after the sysprep?

                    No, I clearly stated, I rolled it back after i made the image.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      Did the VM boot backup after the sysprep?

                      No, I clearly stated, I rolled it back after i made the image.

                      you said you rolled it back after the first test, so you did again after teh second one too?

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @Dashrender
                        last edited by gjacobse

                        @Dashrender said:

                        how did it fail?

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                        Can you provide a full list of installed software?

                        .net2/3.5 feature added
                        Office 2010
                        PDF Creator 1.2
                        ScreenConnect
                        Jet Essentials (plugin for Excel)
                        MS Dynamics NAV
                        Vendor specific NAV tool box
                        7zip
                        greenshot
                        webroot

                        Rechecked windows updates
                        rebooted
                        rechecked again rebooted.

                        Just annoyed that it failed. I can test the image on a VM after each application, but that is annoying as f[moderated].

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @JaredBusch said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          Did the VM boot backup after the sysprep?

                          No, I clearly stated, I rolled it back after i made the image.

                          you said you rolled it back after the first test, so you did again after teh second one too?

                          After sysprep? yes. but that is not relevant to the install failing on a piece of hardware.

                          Seriously no idea why you are hung up on this. it has zero bearing on anything.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            I am wondering if the failure was hardware or software based.. if the sysprep on the VM failed to restart "normally" then you know for sure it's software related... time to look at services or drivers that installed with the added software.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              my suspects would be Webroot and Screenconnect.

                              I've installed Panda AV on my images in the past with no issues, but not LMI, of course, they are not the exactly same software.. so no telling if it's relevant.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                my suspects would be Webroot and Screenconnect.

                                I've installed Panda AV on my images in the past with no issues, but not LMI, of course, they are not the exactly same software.. so no telling if it's relevant.

                                Certainly not ScreenConnect suspected unless it is something new. Reason: I had to look up how to fix it reusing it's internal machine ID after sysprep. That is a registry edit prior to sysprep (just FYI).

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  here's another tip for decrapafying Windows 10.

                                  You can change this via GPO, you might even be able to put it in a golden image in the default user.

                                  HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager

                                  SystemPaneSuggestionsEnabled DWORD

                                  0 = Off
                                  1 = On

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                    last edited by JaredBusch

                                    @Dashrender said in Fresh Win 10 install - doesn't include crapware:

                                    So JB and I are working on fixing some sysprep issues. One issue as seen around these forums is that Sysprep gives errors if Candy Crush and other consumerware are installed into the profile of the user running Sysprep.
                                    So I went in search of a way to prevent that garbage from being install ever!

                                    I found http://winaero.com/blog/fix-windows-10-installs-apps-like-candy-crush-soda-saga-automatically/

                                    Here's the technet article - https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/mniehaus/2015/11/23/seeing-extra-apps-turn-them-off/

                                    Basically it says to start with the most recent ISO from MS possible, Install Windows while completely off the net, then create a new key in the registry.

                                    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\CloudContent
                                    If that key isn't there, create it
                                    Create a D-Word 32 Bit named DisableWindowsConsumerFeatures with a value of 1

                                    Now reboot.
                                    After you've rebooted go online. With luck the system won't download the crap ware... I'll be reporting soon with my results.

                                    This is not appearing to work with 1703 - Creators Update.

                                    I installed 1703 without network into a VM.
                                    Logged in
                                    Created key
                                    Rebooted
                                    Added network
                                    Rebooted
                                    It started downloading things.

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce
                                      last edited by

                                      I made a PowerShell script to run that cleans it all up automatically. Well a .bat that runs it. I have it somewhere on SW, but it's out of date. I'll find the one I have that's more up to date and edit this post.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                                        last edited by JaredBusch

                                        @Tim_G said in Fresh Win 10 install - doesn't include crapware:

                                        I made a PowerShell script to run that cleans it all up automatically. Well a .bat that runs it. I have it somewhere on SW, but it's out of date. I'll find the one I have that's more up to date and edit this post.

                                        I honestly do not care if the crap is there or not.

                                        But sysprep fails with some of it there. That is the problem I have with it. I just want a fucking image with my basic stuff pre-installed. I could care less if the user has Candy Crush. That is a managerial issue.

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by Obsolesce

                                          @JaredBusch said in Fresh Win 10 install - doesn't include crapware:

                                          @Tim_G said in Fresh Win 10 install - doesn't include crapware:

                                          I made a PowerShell script to run that cleans it all up automatically. Well a .bat that runs it. I have it somewhere on SW, but it's out of date. I'll find the one I have that's more up to date and edit this post.

                                          I honestly do not care if the crap is there or not.

                                          But sysprep fails with some of it there. That is the problem I have with it. I just want a fucking image with my basic stuff pre-installed. I could care less if the user has Candy Crush. That is a managerial issue.

                                          Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers *Candy* | Remove-AppxPackage
                                          Get-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online | Where-Object {$_.PackageName -Like "*Candy*"} | ForEach-Object { Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online -PackageName $_.PackageName}
                                          

                                          That's basically all the powershell script contains. Removes about 30 different things. Probably more with the Creators update. But you need to uninstall it from both the "allusers" and "online". You'll have to reboot for it to be completely gone.

                                          If you don't remove the app using the bottom "-online" part, it'll be there for new users.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                                            last edited by

                                            @Tim_G said in Fresh Win 10 install - doesn't include crapware:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Fresh Win 10 install - doesn't include crapware:

                                            @Tim_G said in Fresh Win 10 install - doesn't include crapware:

                                            I made a PowerShell script to run that cleans it all up automatically. Well a .bat that runs it. I have it somewhere on SW, but it's out of date. I'll find the one I have that's more up to date and edit this post.

                                            I honestly do not care if the crap is there or not.

                                            But sysprep fails with some of it there. That is the problem I have with it. I just want a fucking image with my basic stuff pre-installed. I could care less if the user has Candy Crush. That is a managerial issue.

                                            Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers *Candy* | Remove-AppxPackage
                                            Get-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online | Where-Object {$_.PackageName -Like "*Candy*"} | ForEach-Object { Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online -PackageName $_.PackageName}
                                            

                                            That's basically all the powershell script contains. Removes about 30 different things. Probably more with the Creators update. But you need to uninstall it from both the "allusers" and "online". You'll have to reboot for it to be completely gone.

                                            If you don't remove the app using the bottom "-online" part, it'll be there for new users.

                                            Twitter also broke sysprep.

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