Installing ownCloud 9 on CentOS 7
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@JaredBusch said:
@Dashrender said:
through offline conversations @wirestyle22 is telling me that MS is telling him he has to pay for SharePoint outside of his E1 free account.
This just doesn't make sense, unless the free account that MS gives non-profits is really not an O365 account, but instead is really just Hosted Exchange.
E1 has never included SharePoint.
I think it's ODfB sync, right? Different product
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@wirestyle22 said:
@JaredBusch said:
@Dashrender said:
through offline conversations @wirestyle22 is telling me that MS is telling him he has to pay for SharePoint outside of his E1 free account.
This just doesn't make sense, unless the free account that MS gives non-profits is really not an O365 account, but instead is really just Hosted Exchange.
E1 has never included SharePoint.
I think it's ODfB sync, right? Different product
Right.
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@JaredBusch said:
E1 has never included SharePoint.
Well, then E2 must have been the plan that included it.
Plenty of customers, like myself, need Hosted Exchange with Hosted SharePoint, but not local Office.
There was another option in the past for that. Now they are making it appear there are only two options.. .either E1 - basically only Hosted Exchange, or E3 - the kitchen sink.
Of course you can buy E1, Hosted Exchange and through a different license you can get Hosted SharePoint, but it's not an obvious option on that screen.
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OK Found this link
https://products.office.com/en-us/nonprofit/office-365-nonprofit-plans-and-pricingLooks like Non-Profits do get File storage and sharing with 1 TB storage/user in the E1 plan.
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@Dashrender said:
OK Found this link
https://products.office.com/en-us/nonprofit/office-365-nonprofit-plans-and-pricingLooks like Non-Profits do get File storage and sharing with 1 TB storage/user in the E1 plan.
That's OneDrive for Business. While it does use Sharepoint as a backend I don't think it works that same as a team site.
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
OK Found this link
https://products.office.com/en-us/nonprofit/office-365-nonprofit-plans-and-pricingLooks like Non-Profits do get File storage and sharing with 1 TB storage/user in the E1 plan.
That's OneDrive for Business. While it does use Sharepoint as a backend I don't think it works that same as a team site.
Yeah - I know, that's why i didn't list SharePoint - so the question then becomes, how do you keep something in your own ODfB yet share it with the rest of the company and make it easy for them to locate?
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how does the sync client with with oC?
Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?
If there are four folders in the root of S:
IT
Finance
Billing
PolicesLet's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
OK Found this link
https://products.office.com/en-us/nonprofit/office-365-nonprofit-plans-and-pricingLooks like Non-Profits do get File storage and sharing with 1 TB storage/user in the E1 plan.
That's OneDrive for Business. While it does use Sharepoint as a backend I don't think it works that same as a team site.
Yeah - I know, that's why i didn't list SharePoint - so the question then becomes, how do you keep something in your own ODfB yet share it with the rest of the company and make it easy for them to locate?
That's the issue. That's what you pay for with Sharepoint. This is based on what was explained to me by Microsoft.
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@Dashrender said:
how does the sync client with with oC?
Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?
If there are four folders in the root of S:
IT
Finance
Billing
PolicesLet's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?
It syncs your changes using a sync folder you designate on your local PC. Download > Edit > Upload. You don't have to manually do it. The client takes care of it for you.
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@wirestyle22 said:
It syncs your changes using a sync folder you designate on your local PC. Download > Edit > Upload. You don't have to manually do it. The client takes care of it for you.
Sure the client takes care of the items you choose to sync. But what about things you don't sync?
I'm sure your world is like mine, you don't want everyone syncing 20+ GB of files locally, you only want them to sync the typical stuff, hopefully only a few hundred megs.
But that leaves the question, how do you handle the a-typical? -
Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.
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@coliver said:
Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.
Yes it does
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@Dashrender said:
@wirestyle22 said:
It syncs your changes using a sync folder you designate on your local PC. Download > Edit > Upload. You don't have to manually do it. The client takes care of it for you.
Sure the client takes care of the items you choose to sync. But what about things you don't sync?
I'm sure your world is like mine, you don't want everyone syncing 20+ GB of files locally, you only want them to sync the typical stuff, hopefully only a few hundred megs.
But that leaves the question, how do you handle the a-typical?No idea. @dafyre and I were talking about this today in PM's
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@coliver said:
Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.
Boy, I would hope so, otherwise it becomes useless pretty quick. You have 1 TB of data in oC, and a 250 GB SSD local, now syncing isn't an option.. yeah... bad
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.
Boy, I would hope so, otherwise it becomes useless pretty quick. You have 1 TB of data in oC, and a 250 GB SSD local, now syncing isn't an option.. yeah... bad
The option there is to not use the sync client at all. Only download things when you need them from either the web client of a webdav client, which is built directly into Windows.
I've never used the sync client everything I do is directly over webdav. I go to the web client occasionly but webdav makes it so much easier.
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.
Boy, I would hope so, otherwise it becomes useless pretty quick. You have 1 TB of data in oC, and a 250 GB SSD local, now syncing isn't an option.. yeah... bad
The option there is to not use the sync client at all. Only download things when you need them from either the web client of a webdav client, which is built directly into Windows.
I've never used the sync client everything I do is directly over webdav. I go to the web client occasionly but webdav makes it so much easier.
This seems like something I'd be interested in. Any good documentation I can read? Can you create logon scripts for domain accounts using webdav?
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@wirestyle22 said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.
Boy, I would hope so, otherwise it becomes useless pretty quick. You have 1 TB of data in oC, and a 250 GB SSD local, now syncing isn't an option.. yeah... bad
The option there is to not use the sync client at all. Only download things when you need them from either the web client of a webdav client, which is built directly into Windows.
I've never used the sync client everything I do is directly over webdav. I go to the web client occasionly but webdav makes it so much easier.
This seems like something I'd be interested in. Any good documentation I can read? Can you create logon scripts for domain accounts using webdav?
You should be able to. Webdav on Windows can be funky though.
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@coliver said:
The option there is to not use the sync client at all. Only download things when you need them from either the web client of a webdav client, which is built directly into Windows.
Yeah certain people here at ML would go nuts if you wanted to sync.
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@Dashrender said:
how does the sync client with with oC?
Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?
If there are four folders in the root of S:
IT
Finance
Billing
PolicesLet's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?
Not any more. The new oC Client will allow you to set up multiple accounts and sync them to different folders on your computer.
