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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      through offline conversations @wirestyle22 is telling me that MS is telling him he has to pay for SharePoint outside of his E1 free account.

      This just doesn't make sense, unless the free account that MS gives non-profits is really not an O365 account, but instead is really just Hosted Exchange.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        through offline conversations @wirestyle22 is telling me that MS is telling him he has to pay for SharePoint outside of his E1 free account.

        This just doesn't make sense, unless the free account that MS gives non-profits is really not an O365 account, but instead is really just Hosted Exchange.

        E1 has never included SharePoint.

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @JaredBusch said:

          @Dashrender said:

          through offline conversations @wirestyle22 is telling me that MS is telling him he has to pay for SharePoint outside of his E1 free account.

          This just doesn't make sense, unless the free account that MS gives non-profits is really not an O365 account, but instead is really just Hosted Exchange.

          E1 has never included SharePoint.

          I think it's ODfB sync, right? Different product

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @wirestyle22
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            @wirestyle22 said:

            @JaredBusch said:

            @Dashrender said:

            through offline conversations @wirestyle22 is telling me that MS is telling him he has to pay for SharePoint outside of his E1 free account.

            This just doesn't make sense, unless the free account that MS gives non-profits is really not an O365 account, but instead is really just Hosted Exchange.

            E1 has never included SharePoint.

            I think it's ODfB sync, right? Different product

            Right.
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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said:

              E1 has never included SharePoint.

              Well, then E2 must have been the plan that included it.

              Plenty of customers, like myself, need Hosted Exchange with Hosted SharePoint, but not local Office.

              There was another option in the past for that. Now they are making it appear there are only two options.. .either E1 - basically only Hosted Exchange, or E3 - the kitchen sink.

              Of course you can buy E1, Hosted Exchange and through a different license you can get Hosted SharePoint, but it's not an obvious option on that screen.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by Dashrender

                OK Found this link
                https://products.office.com/en-us/nonprofit/office-365-nonprofit-plans-and-pricing

                Looks like Non-Profits do get File storage and sharing with 1 TB storage/user in the E1 plan.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said:

                  OK Found this link
                  https://products.office.com/en-us/nonprofit/office-365-nonprofit-plans-and-pricing

                  Looks like Non-Profits do get File storage and sharing with 1 TB storage/user in the E1 plan.

                  That's OneDrive for Business. While it does use Sharepoint as a backend I don't think it works that same as a team site.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @coliver
                    last edited by

                    @coliver said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    OK Found this link
                    https://products.office.com/en-us/nonprofit/office-365-nonprofit-plans-and-pricing

                    Looks like Non-Profits do get File storage and sharing with 1 TB storage/user in the E1 plan.

                    That's OneDrive for Business. While it does use Sharepoint as a backend I don't think it works that same as a team site.

                    Yeah - I know, that's why i didn't list SharePoint - so the question then becomes, how do you keep something in your own ODfB yet share it with the rest of the company and make it easy for them to locate?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      how does the sync client with with oC?

                      Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?

                      If there are four folders in the root of S:
                      IT
                      Finance
                      Billing
                      Polices

                      Let's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                        last edited by wirestyle22

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @coliver said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        OK Found this link
                        https://products.office.com/en-us/nonprofit/office-365-nonprofit-plans-and-pricing

                        Looks like Non-Profits do get File storage and sharing with 1 TB storage/user in the E1 plan.

                        That's OneDrive for Business. While it does use Sharepoint as a backend I don't think it works that same as a team site.

                        Yeah - I know, that's why i didn't list SharePoint - so the question then becomes, how do you keep something in your own ODfB yet share it with the rest of the company and make it easy for them to locate?

                        That's the issue. That's what you pay for with Sharepoint. This is based on what was explained to me by Microsoft.

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                          last edited by wirestyle22

                          @Dashrender said:

                          how does the sync client with with oC?

                          Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?

                          If there are four folders in the root of S:
                          IT
                          Finance
                          Billing
                          Polices

                          Let's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?

                          It syncs your changes using a sync folder you designate on your local PC. Download > Edit > Upload. You don't have to manually do it. The client takes care of it for you.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @wirestyle22
                            last edited by

                            @wirestyle22 said:

                            It syncs your changes using a sync folder you designate on your local PC. Download > Edit > Upload. You don't have to manually do it. The client takes care of it for you.

                            Sure the client takes care of the items you choose to sync. But what about things you don't sync?

                            I'm sure your world is like mine, you don't want everyone syncing 20+ GB of files locally, you only want them to sync the typical stuff, hopefully only a few hundred megs.
                            But that leaves the question, how do you handle the a-typical?

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver
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                              Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @coliver said:

                                Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.

                                Yes it does

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @wirestyle22 said:

                                  It syncs your changes using a sync folder you designate on your local PC. Download > Edit > Upload. You don't have to manually do it. The client takes care of it for you.

                                  Sure the client takes care of the items you choose to sync. But what about things you don't sync?

                                  I'm sure your world is like mine, you don't want everyone syncing 20+ GB of files locally, you only want them to sync the typical stuff, hopefully only a few hundred megs.
                                  But that leaves the question, how do you handle the a-typical?

                                  No idea. @dafyre and I were talking about this today in PM's

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @coliver
                                    last edited by

                                    @coliver said:

                                    Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.

                                    Boy, I would hope so, otherwise it becomes useless pretty quick. You have 1 TB of data in oC, and a 250 GB SSD local, now syncing isn't an option.. yeah... bad

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @coliver said:

                                      Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.

                                      Boy, I would hope so, otherwise it becomes useless pretty quick. You have 1 TB of data in oC, and a 250 GB SSD local, now syncing isn't an option.. yeah... bad

                                      The option there is to not use the sync client at all. Only download things when you need them from either the web client of a webdav client, which is built directly into Windows.

                                      I've never used the sync client everything I do is directly over webdav. I go to the web client occasionly but webdav makes it so much easier.

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                                      • wirestyle22W
                                        wirestyle22 @coliver
                                        last edited by wirestyle22

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @coliver said:

                                        Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.

                                        Boy, I would hope so, otherwise it becomes useless pretty quick. You have 1 TB of data in oC, and a 250 GB SSD local, now syncing isn't an option.. yeah... bad

                                        The option there is to not use the sync client at all. Only download things when you need them from either the web client of a webdav client, which is built directly into Windows.

                                        I've never used the sync client everything I do is directly over webdav. I go to the web client occasionly but webdav makes it so much easier.

                                        This seems like something I'd be interested in. Any good documentation I can read? Can you create logon scripts for domain accounts using webdav?

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @wirestyle22
                                          last edited by

                                          @wirestyle22 said:

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @coliver said:

                                          Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.

                                          Boy, I would hope so, otherwise it becomes useless pretty quick. You have 1 TB of data in oC, and a 250 GB SSD local, now syncing isn't an option.. yeah... bad

                                          The option there is to not use the sync client at all. Only download things when you need them from either the web client of a webdav client, which is built directly into Windows.

                                          I've never used the sync client everything I do is directly over webdav. I go to the web client occasionly but webdav makes it so much easier.

                                          This seems like something I'd be interested in. Any good documentation I can read? Can you create logon scripts for domain accounts using webdav?

                                          You should be able to. Webdav on Windows can be funky though.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver
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                                            https://doc.owncloud.org/server/7.0/user_manual/files/files.html

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