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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @Dashrender said:

      Is that it? Is NAT traversal why you would want to run softphones over ZT instead of just connecting them directly to the internet?

      No, security is the main reason. NAT traversal is easy (ish) to deal with.

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee @adam.ierymenko
        last edited by

        @adam.ierymenko said:

        @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

        How are they doing this?
        I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

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          adam.ierymenko @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller I disagree about NAT traversal being easy. It isn't too bad in, say, 90% of cases, but there's a long tail of awful edge cases and bad NATs that are terrible to deal with. We know this all too well.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
            last edited by

            @FATeknollogee said:

            @adam.ierymenko said:

            @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

            How are they doing this?
            I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

            Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @FATeknollogee said:

              @adam.ierymenko said:

              @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

              How are they doing this?
              I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

              Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

              How would you deal with remote handsets?

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @FATeknollogee
                last edited by

                @FATeknollogee said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @FATeknollogee said:

                @adam.ierymenko said:

                @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                How are they doing this?
                I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

                How would you deal with remote handsets?

                You'd have to use a zt gateway.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                  last edited by

                  @FATeknollogee said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @FATeknollogee said:

                  @adam.ierymenko said:

                  @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                  How are they doing this?
                  I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                  Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

                  How would you deal with remote handsets?

                  ZT goes on every node. Same as with more traditional VPN technologies. If you use OpenVPN, every handset needs OpenVPN on it, too.

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    zt gateway

                    Can you install ZT on Yealink or Grandstream handsets?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                      last edited by

                      @FATeknollogee said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      zt gateway

                      Can you install ZT on Yealink or Grandstream handsets?

                      No, you would need them behind a gateway.

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                      • FATeknollogeeF
                        FATeknollogee
                        last edited by

                        What is this gateway you guys are speaking of?
                        I looked on the ZT site

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                          last edited by

                          @FATeknollogee said:

                          What is this gateway you guys are speaking of?
                          I looked on the ZT site

                          ZT has mentioned them a few times. ZT supports a gateway function so that you can have a "LAN" behind a gateway without needing ZT installed to each device.

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates
                            last edited by stacksofplates

                            So I downloaded VyOS and was able to install ZT on it. However I can't get it on my EdgeRouter as I have no other MIPS devices to compile on (I can't install make on the EdgeRouter) and my cross compilation skills do not exist.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              I never did the research to see that the EdgeRouter is a MIPS device.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by stacksofplates

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                I never did the research to see that the EdgeRouter is a MIPS device.

                                Ya, MIPS64. So from what I saw on the ZT github, processor type doesn't matter really as long as it's 32 or 64 bit, but you still need to be able to compile on it.........................Suck.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  Yup, sounds like a MIPS development board is in order!

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch
                                    last edited by JaredBusch

                                    The EdgeMax line makes use of Debian Wheezy Not sure what version. Haven't followed that in a while.

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @stacksofplates
                                      last edited by

                                      @johnhooks said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      I never did the research to see that the EdgeRouter is a MIPS device.

                                      Ya, MIPS64. So from what I saw on the ZT github, processor type doesn't matter really as long as it's 32 or 64 bit, but you still need to be able to compile on it.........................Suck.

                                      You can't cross compile for it? I did that all the time way back when. Engineers requested some open source stuff for IRIX, so I made it happen.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Can't believe that this did not get linked post MangoCon but here is the presentation.

                                        Youtube Video

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