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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
      last edited by

      Just to confirm, Hyper-V replication requires a valid server license on both sides, right? (Or DC on both sides.)

      (OF COURSE!)

      Just checking. I was thinking about that this morning for some reason.

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      • brianlittlejohnB
        brianlittlejohn @BRRABill
        last edited by

        @BRRABill yes it does.

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          original_anvil Vendor
          last edited by

          Well, I think this is what you need:
          http://veeampdf.s3.amazonaws.com/guide/veeam_backup_9_0_user_guide_hyperv_en.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJI4MX44AEVG3NBLA&Expires=1452722530&Signature=3RjM3PAbZpsuxsT%2Br8NPe0TMNLs%3D
          Page 169 and so on 🙂

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
            last edited by

            None of that answers my question.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @JaredBusch said:

              None of that answers my question.

              Enable Hyper-V Replication on your Remote Hyper-V server, and configure your local Hyper-V Server(s) to replicate everything to your Remote Hyper_V box.... This of course can take a while, but it should work.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                Assuming Veeam supports it's own replication (Appassure Replay does) can't you just add the other repository to Veeams list, and then tell it that it is a replication repository and what to replicate there?

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  What other repository?

                  No where did I say anything was setup except that the server is running Hyper-V 2012 R2 and has a couple minor VM's running on it.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said:

                    What other repository?

                    No where did I say anything was setup except that the server is running Hyper-V 2012 R2 and has a couple minor VM's running on it.

                    My bad - yeah you could setup a Linux VM, grab some storage, setup Samba, then connect it to the Veeam host.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      Circling back around on this.

                      No one ever came up with a solution. Is this that complicated? Maybe I stated it bad? Or not enough detail?

                      Rephrasing:

                      I have Site A and Site B that are regionally separated. Site A is the live site and Site B is the desired backup site.

                      Site A has 2 Hyper-V servers replicating from Server A to Server B (all workloads on Server A).
                      Site A has Veeam B&R (paid) being used to backup from Server A to local NAS.

                      Site B is a colo
                      Site B can have VPN, if needed. Nothing currently setup.
                      Site B has a non domain joined Hyper-V server sitting there with a few minor web based workloads on it.
                      Site B has about 5TB if space available to Hyper-V.

                      Something else? Am I missing a detail that would help you make a suggestion for me?

                      So what wold be a solid system to setup?

                      This is what I was thinking to do, but did not want to pollute recommendations with my own ideas:
                      At site B, setup a VM with a NFS share and then Veeam in another VM and use the NFS as the storage?

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch If you setup a VPN, you should be able to just connect Site A Veeam to an NFS share from Site B. Unless Veeam recommends running a second instance of the software? (I haven't used anything but a trial, so I don't remember.)

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @travisdh1
                          last edited by

                          @travisdh1 said:

                          @JaredBusch If you setup a VPN, you should be able to just connect Site A Veeam to an NFS share from Site B. Unless Veeam recommends running a second instance of the software? (I haven't used anything but a trial, so I don't remember.)

                          Their documentation does say that you should run a second instance. I have not confirmed licensing yet, but I did email this question a couple years ago and was told the off site copy does not need licensing. I will be emailing support about it today.

                          But again, I was hoping for other people to give me ideas for things they have done in this type of scenario. I am confident of my research on this solution, but I am also confident that I do not know all the options available.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            I'm probably missing it, what piece is doing the actual data movement over the WAN, Veeam itself?

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              I'm probably missing it, what piece is doing the actual data movement over the WAN, Veeam itself?

                              Right now? Nothing. This is a new setup.

                              The solution I have researched base don the already purchased software? It would be Veeam.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                I wonder why you're creating an NFS mount, why not just give the disk directly to Veeam VM (assuming all of the disk is internal to the VM Host).

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                                  hubtechagain
                                  last edited by

                                  it's manual, but it'd work. I'm a big fan of using the M$ 12r2 Replication built in

                                  http://blog.powerbiz.net.au/hyperv/how-to-set-up-hyper-v-replica-for-small-businesses/

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    The solution I have researched base don the already purchased software? It would be Veeam.

                                    Makes sense, just wasn't sure if you'd Veeam or something like RSYNC to get from the backup target to the other backup target.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @hubtechagain
                                      last edited by

                                      @hubtechagain said:

                                      it's manual, but it'd work. I'm a big fan of using the M$ 12r2 Replication built in

                                      http://blog.powerbiz.net.au/hyperv/how-to-set-up-hyper-v-replica-for-small-businesses/

                                      I use it on site as noted already. and it works well.

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                                      • DenisKelleyD
                                        DenisKelley
                                        last edited by

                                        If you are trying to use Veeam, the standard setup would to have a server running a second copy of Veeam B&R at the target site. You'll link the two and configure the replicas. You do not need to purchase a second Veeam license to do this, but you will need a running B&R at the DR site.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @DenisKelley
                                          last edited by JaredBusch

                                          @DenisKelley said:

                                          If you are trying to use Veeam, the standard setup would to have a server running a second copy of Veeam B&R at the target site. You'll link the two and configure the replicas. You do not need to purchase a second Veeam license to do this, but you will need a running B&R at the DR site.

                                          That was my understanding of how it works, but it has been almost two years since I talked to Veeam about it.

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                                          • DenisKelleyD
                                            DenisKelley @JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            @JaredBusch said:

                                            @DenisKelley said:

                                            If you are trying to use Veeam, the standard setup would to have a server running a second copy of Veeam B&R at the target site. You'll link the two and configure the replicas. You do not need to purchase a second Veeam license to do this, but you will need a running B&R at the DR site.

                                            That was my understanding of how it works, but it has been almost two years since I talked to Veeam about it.

                                            With what I've seen with v9, you now can do full failover scripted ahead of time to make it a bit more turn-key during a disaster.

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