Onedrive is shrinking
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@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller Right. My question was more along the lines of does it Sync files like Drop Box?
With DropBox when I log into the client from another computer, it immediately starts downloading everything... I'd rather have something that will just let me keep dumping files into it, or download just the ones I need.
The app doesn't sync anything, it just allows you to upload and download.
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Well, that's just crap.
I don't have too much in there but I have been adding more stuff to it regularly.
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In order to satisfy my knee-jerk reaction, I'm looking for a new provider.
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From the FAQ:
Why are we making changes?
Since starting to roll out unlimited cloud storage to Office 365 consumer subscribers, a small number of users backed up numerous PCs and stored entire movie collections and DVR recordings. In some instances, this exceeded 75 TB per user or 14,000 times the average. Instead of focusing on extreme backup scenarios, we want to remain focused on delivering high-value productivity and collaboration experiences that benefit the majority of OneDrive users.- I SMELL BS!!!!!!!!!
What did they expect? If you offer unlimited storage, people are going to fill it with anything AND everything.
If Iām affected by these changes, what will Microsoft do for me?
Free users who are over 5 GB of storage and thus affected by this change can claim a free 1-year subscription to Office 365 Personal [see note at the end].Current customers of standalone OneDrive storage plans (such as a 100 or 200 GB plans) are not affected by these changes.
If you are an Office 365 consumer subscriber and have stored in excess of 1 TB, you will be notified of this change and will be able to keep your increased storage for at least 12 months.
If you are an Office 365 consumer subscriber and find that Office 365 no longer meets your needs, a pro-rated refund will be given.
Note at the end:
Credit card required and subscription will automatically renew. Cancel anytime at www.office.com/myaccount.- Just like XBL. Enforced renewal that you have to opt out of instead of opt in.
I am really disliking the consumer side of Microsoft. They don't seem to care about their non-business consumers.
This is just another debacle that is causing outrage among their consumer users. I think that they will start to lose customers faster now than ever.
Google is, once again, the best offering for free storage IMO.
- I SMELL BS!!!!!!!!!
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^ the FAQ mentioned there is here:
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So I just realized, that I can't download my data from Onedrive in bulk in excess of 4GB. Individual files are fine, but that's another limitation. Crap. I just canceled auto-renewal, my subscription expires on Nov 21, I guess I'll be doing a lot of clicking in the next 2.5 weeks.
Amazon Drive users, are there any limits you're aware of? File size limit? Number of uploaded files at once? Download limits? -
Have not seen any limit other than the speed of the uploads.
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@MattSpeller said:
And thus my core issue with cloud anything - if you don't own it, you don't control it & whoever does holds the whip hand.
Yes. A crucial factor in adopting cloud services is trust. That's why big brands end up as a monopoly, because new players don't have that trust. It's why companies shouldn't screw their customers and should always honour their commitments.
Even though I don't use O365 personal (I have a business account), I no longer trust Microsoft. If they can screw some of their customers like this, when are they going to start screwing me? (I also have 40gb of free storage with my Hotmail account, which I think they're going to cut?)
I've always been a Microsoft fanboy, and have stuck with them through thick and thin. But I think I'm done with them now. I'm going to go all in with Google.
It's simple - cloud providers can't abuse their users trust and expect to remain players.
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@scottalanmiller how has this effected your Nadella love-in? If Ballmer did this I reckon you'd be all over him like a rash
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@Carnival-Boy said:
@scottalanmiller how has this effected your Nadella love-in? If Ballmer did this I reckon you'd be all over him like a rash
This is pretty crappy indeed however I've been complaining for a year that they never opened up OneDrive and all of the unlimited storage was fake so this isn't new to me, just how I've always seen the product.
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Fake? I don't think there was anything fake about it, was there?
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@Carnival-Boy said:
Fake? I don't think there was anything fake about it, was there?
Other than that they kept promoting "unlimited" but kept having limits and never ended up rolling out the "unlimited" as it was. Some of us were still on the waiting list to get it by the time that it went away. Some people got it, but I have no idea what percentage. It was all new users signing up to take advantage of the unlimited marketing, not the people who had tried it originally. Maybe I'm one of the few, but maybe that was the norm, too.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Fake? I don't think there was anything fake about it, was there?
Other than that they kept promoting "unlimited" but kept having limits and never ended up rolling out the "unlimited" as it was. Some of us were still on the waiting list to get it by the time that it went away. Some people got it, but I have no idea what percentage. It was all new users signing up to take advantage of the unlimited marketing, not the people who had tried it originally. Maybe I'm one of the few, but maybe that was the norm, too.
Mine always showed 10.1TB when they went to "unlimited"...Showed 10.3 TB total and 10.1 TB available...so I was barely using it but it was nice to have and was planning on using it for as long as I kept Office 365.
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Mine never got close to that even. But 10TB would have been a nice start.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Mine never got close to that even. But 10TB would have been a nice start.
As mentioned earlier, I am finally taking your advice and will stop being ALL IN with Microsoft.
This OneDrive announcement was the final straw (and this goes back to Windows MOBILE and Zune for me...) I still love the media options on XBOX One and love my Band 2 but open to others now. I'd look at a FireTV but since I have the XBOX and it has Amazon Instant Video, just don't want "yet another device"...wish XBOX would get an Amazon Music app...would be nice... -
@garak0410 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Fake? I don't think there was anything fake about it, was there?
Other than that they kept promoting "unlimited" but kept having limits and never ended up rolling out the "unlimited" as it was. Some of us were still on the waiting list to get it by the time that it went away. Some people got it, but I have no idea what percentage. It was all new users signing up to take advantage of the unlimited marketing, not the people who had tried it originally. Maybe I'm one of the few, but maybe that was the norm, too.
Mine always showed 10.1TB when they went to "unlimited"...Showed 10.3 TB total and 10.1 TB available...so I was barely using it but it was nice to have and was planning on using it for as long as I kept Office 365.
This is what my OneDrive has always shown since I was granted "unlimited storage":
Your plan
Free 15 GBYour additional storage
Referral bonus (0% achieved) 0 GBLoyalty bonus 10 GB
Office 365 subscription 10,240 GB
Groove Music Pass subscription 100 GB
Camera roll bonus 15 GB
Paid plan bonus 15 GB
I am just curious as to how and why they would just talk all of this away from me.
Surface bonus 200 GB
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Look how complicated that is! Three different types of bonus, 2 different subscriptions. They're just a bunch of amateurs run by marketing men. Amazon and Google are miles ahead.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
Look how complicated that is! Three different types of bonus, 2 different subscriptions. They're just a bunch of amateurs run by marketing men. Amazon and Google are miles ahead.
It just boggles the mind doesn't it? It hard to believe they will take it all away to just 1TB since I have Office 365. And if I didn't have it, I'd be down to 5GB I guess, since I will lose all these bonus tiers.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Fake? I don't think there was anything fake about it, was there?
Other than that they kept promoting "unlimited" but kept having limits and never ended up rolling out the "unlimited" as it was. Some of us were still on the waiting list to get it by the time that it went away. Some people got it, but I have no idea what percentage. It was all new users signing up to take advantage of the unlimited marketing, not the people who had tried it originally. Maybe I'm one of the few, but maybe that was the norm, too.
Did you fill what space you had? Apparently, when you fill the space you get allocated another 10TB. When you fill that you get another 10TB, and so and so until infinity. So I suspect you did actually have unlimited storage.
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I've heard of people getting upped to 40TB once reaching 10TB. I was really close to testing that, but apparently Microsoft thinks we (ab)use the service.
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75TB as an "outlyer" seems a bit ridiculous for MS to call abuse on a system touted as "unlimited." It's understood, generally, that unlimited isn't really unlimited. But 75TB seems like more of a "normal" number for people with fast WAN links than a crazy one. If they said 250TB, I'd be shocked. But for 75TB to be so high that they point to it as the edge case... how small were they expecting this to be?
I have maybe 40TB of storage at home. If I was to back up to their service my home storage (isn't that the idea?) then I'd be in the same broad range.
If you have a lot of home videos (GoPro users anyone?) or a movie collection (don't tons of people have those?) or other large collections this seems like it wouldn't be normal, but common. These are reasonable things for consumers to own and want to back up.
