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    Verizon Windows Phone Users of MangoLassi - You Holding Out Hope Or Gonna Switch?

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    • garak0410G
      garak0410
      last edited by garak0410

      I did fire back up my ICON for the rest of the weekend, just to get a feel of both in a short period of time...no Spiceworks app! LOL

      I went back to the Note 5 within hours of firing up the ICON. Wanted to do some more testing.

      I do have to come back to the "ain't about the apps" argument. Random thoughts on apps and functions:

      • Facebook Messenger has pretty neat notifications with the circle of the person. You can either click on them to respond or drag to bottom to close. Very neat.

      • We are more than likely going to sign a contract at work on Toshiba Copiers with a DocuWare solution and I really am going to need the apps.

      • The Aforementioned Spiceworks app. So convenient.

      • School - ClassDojo and EZSchool Pay apps are very nice.

      • I can easily follow and manage my Yahoo! Fantasy Football now!

      • The YouVersion App is so much more realized (like many Windows Phone apps, they are one and done and abandoned.)

      Other Positives:

      • This Note 5 is a beast in performance.

      • SideSync is pretty nice. Reminds me of a similar app I had back in the Windows Mobile 6.5 days.

      • The Camera is fantastic. Never thought something could beat my ICON.

      • MangoLassi website renders and works great. :bowtie:

      Quirks:

      • Android Still seems Messy to Me.

      • Groove Music is hit and miss and the aforementioned UNKNOWN Artist and Album Information.

      • Do I dare say having more apps and notifications = more distractions, even if I tune down a lot of notifications.

      For all of its advantages, it is so hard to leave the ICON behind but is now kind of hard to go back to it. Seems slower (with latest Windows 10 Mobile Insider) and left behind.

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      • garak0410G
        garak0410
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        So, the day has come (or has it)...do I hold on to this Note 5 or go back to the beloved Windows Phone? Guess it shows you how loyal we Windows Phone users are... 😆

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          I'm a bit surprised you're making this decision before the new devices are out.

          I really want the quick access options for unlocking my device. I'm not completely sold on the iris scanner yet, but it's better than nothing.

          The lack of a fingerprint reader is definitely frustrating for me.

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          • garak0410G
            garak0410 @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            I'm a bit surprised you're making this decision before the new devices are out.

            I really want the quick access options for unlocking my device. I'm not completely sold on the iris scanner yet, but it's better than nothing.

            The lack of a fingerprint reader is definitely frustrating for me.

            Well, I am on Verizon and it could be 6-12 months before we see any Windows 10 device, specifically a non-Lumia. I've tested this Note 5 a lot, especially the camera and beyond a few mild quirks, I am not missing much from Windows Phone (ICON)....The battery drain on Windows 10 on the ICON makes it unusable and now tasting Windows 10 and the Note 5, going back to 8.1 for better battery would feel like going back to Windows 95. 😞

            And yeah, I do like the fingerprint reader on the Note 5.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @garak0410
              last edited by

              @garak0410 said:

              going back to 8.1 for better battery would feel like going back to Windows 95. 😞

              Oh man, you can say that again. I really miss Windows 10 mobile. But after the update they released last May - I had to bail and haven't been back.

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              • coliverC
                coliver
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                As an avid Galaxy Note fan (I would still have one if I were on Verizon) I can't recommend the phablet enough. Perfect size for people with bigger hands, great usability and speed. When I was using the it I couldn't find anything wrong with it. Even the battery life with that massive screen was phenomenal.

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                • garak0410G
                  garak0410 @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @garak0410 said:

                  going back to 8.1 for better battery would feel like going back to Windows 95. 😞

                  Oh man, you can say that again. I really miss Windows 10 mobile. But after the update they released last May - I had to bail and haven't been back.

                  Yeah...I love the concept and improvements of it but I can't use my phone an hour without it being near drained...on this Note 5, I can use it for an hour and only be down 20% or so.

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                  • garak0410G
                    garak0410 @coliver
                    last edited by

                    @coliver said:

                    As an avid Galaxy Note fan (I would still have one if I were on Verizon) I can't recommend the phablet enough. Perfect size for people with bigger hands, great usability and speed. When I was using the it I couldn't find anything wrong with it. Even the battery life with that massive screen was phenomenal.

                    I'm starting to be won over by it...I don't have a need to carry my Dell Venue 8 Pro now (for when I wanted an option for handwriting/notes and didn't want to take my Surface Pro 3)...

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @garak0410
                      last edited by

                      @garak0410 said:

                      @coliver said:

                      As an avid Galaxy Note fan (I would still have one if I were on Verizon) I can't recommend the phablet enough. Perfect size for people with bigger hands, great usability and speed. When I was using the it I couldn't find anything wrong with it. Even the battery life with that massive screen was phenomenal.

                      I'm starting to be won over by it...I don't have a need to carry my Dell Venue 8 Pro now (for when I wanted an option for handwriting/notes and didn't want to take my Surface Pro 3)...

                      The stylus on the Note and Note 3 were mediocre. I've heard really good things about the new version and what they did in the software for it.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @garak0410
                        last edited by

                        @garak0410 said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @garak0410 said:

                        going back to 8.1 for better battery would feel like going back to Windows 95. 😞

                        Oh man, you can say that again. I really miss Windows 10 mobile. But after the update they released last May - I had to bail and haven't been back.

                        Yeah...I love the concept and improvements of it but I can't use my phone an hour without it being near drained...on this Note 5, I can use it for an hour and only be down 20% or so.

                        You are comparing a phone with a 2 year old battery (unless you replaced it recently). But yeah I've heard the beta's have battery issues.

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                        • J
                          Jason Banned
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                          I can use any phone, I'm on an iPhone 6 right now because it just works. The only things I do on a phone are:

                          Email (Work Exchange, Personal Exchange and Gmail)
                          SMS sometimes
                          Pandora
                          Call

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @Jason
                            last edited by

                            @Jason said:

                            I can use any phone, I'm on an iPhone 6 right now because it just works. The only things I do on a phone are:

                            Email (Work Exchange, Personal Exchange and Gmail)
                            SMS sometimes
                            Pandora
                            Call

                            I don't Pandora, and I do game a bit - but yeah I'm about the same. While I have no desire to have an iPhone, I could be on one with little actual issue.

                            Adding to your list:
                            take pictures
                            surf the web
                            read ML

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                            • garak0410G
                              garak0410 @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @garak0410 said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @garak0410 said:

                              going back to 8.1 for better battery would feel like going back to Windows 95. 😞

                              Oh man, you can say that again. I really miss Windows 10 mobile. But after the update they released last May - I had to bail and haven't been back.

                              Yeah...I love the concept and improvements of it but I can't use my phone an hour without it being near drained...on this Note 5, I can use it for an hour and only be down 20% or so.

                              You are comparing a phone with a 2 year old battery (unless you replaced it recently). But yeah I've heard the beta's have battery issues.

                              Yeah, I did replace my ICON with one of the new ones the Microsoft Store has recently started selling again. Battery life on Windows 10 mobile is still very poor even with a new battery.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                Did you get the 650XL? I picked it up, paid cash - it's pretty nice. I rarely have lockup or other problems. Definitely no more than I did with my Galaxy S4

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                                • KellyK
                                  Kelly
                                  last edited by Kelly

                                  So I was quickly dumped out of the Windows eco system. I got an iPhone for work and had my Lumia 925 start freaking out on me I switched to a Nexus 4 that I had for testing. Every day I am frustrated by something about these other two OSs. Everything is harder. Some of it is lack of familiarity (swipe right to unlock vs swipe up). Others are just crappy design. Last night I wanted to mark an email as unread in the native mail app on my iPhone. On WP it is a long tap, select mark unread. On iOS (I'll see if I can remember all the steps) I had to (nope, can't remember, just going to have to recreate it) tap Edit in the upper right (wtf are so many critical, repeatable actions at the top of the screen in iOS), select the message, tap Mark, then select Mark as unread.

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                                  • KellyK
                                    Kelly
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                                    All that ranting aside, I don't have a good answer for the VZW/W10M issue. I'm hopeful MS and T-Mobile will kiss and make up, but that doesn't do much for you Garak.

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                                    • garak0410G
                                      garak0410 @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @Jason said:

                                      I can use any phone, I'm on an iPhone 6 right now because it just works. The only things I do on a phone are:

                                      Email (Work Exchange, Personal Exchange and Gmail)
                                      SMS sometimes
                                      Pandora
                                      Call

                                      I don't Pandora, and I do game a bit - but yeah I'm about the same. While I have no desire to have an iPhone, I could be on one with little actual issue.

                                      Adding to your list:
                                      take pictures
                                      surf the web
                                      read ML

                                      As an IT Geek as well as an IT Pro, I think that I am having an epiphany of sorts. Exorcising the idea of being "all in" an ecosystem. Realizing that choice and cross platform is the answer to a more productive and fun life!! The fanboy "demon" is starting to leave me. LOL...

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                                      • garak0410G
                                        garak0410 @Kelly
                                        last edited by

                                        @Kelly said:

                                        All that ranting aside, I don't have a good answer for the VZW/W10M issue. I'm hopeful MS and T-Mobile will kiss and make up, but that doesn't do much for you Garak.

                                        The fact that there is some blame going around with the new Lumia Phones with Microsoft and Verizon tells me that there may be hope that Verizon users may soon one day be able to use an unlocked 950xl. No one on either side as truly come out and said this will NEVER work. Right now, all we know is it WON'T work.

                                        But now that I've been spoiled a little on the Note 5 with some apps I do truly use and the stylus, it will be a hard sell to get a 950xl even if I could.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
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                                          It's my understanding that the 950XL will have the needed radios (at least the ones you can buy directly from Microsoft) but it's Verizon who is refusing to activate them.

                                          It's also my understanding that that is now illegal. You should contact the insert correct government agency here and complain that Verizon is breaking the law. With enough complaints hopefully the government will step in and solve the problem.

                                          As Paul Thurrott said on WW last week - All I want from my carrier is a connection, a pipe to the internet and phone calls.

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                                          • garak0410G
                                            garak0410 @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            It's my understanding that the 950XL will have the needed radios (at least the ones you can buy directly from Microsoft) but it's Verizon who is refusing to activate them.

                                            It's also my understanding that that is now illegal. You should contact the insert correct government agency here and complain that Verizon is breaking the law. With enough complaints hopefully the government will step in and solve the problem.

                                            As Paul Thurrott said on WW last week - All I want from my carrier is a connection, a pipe to the internet and phone calls.

                                            That really makes sense...I mean, if these phones didn't have the required CDMA, Microsoft or Verizon would and should just come out and say so...

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