@scottalanmiller said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

@storageninja said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

@scottalanmiller said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

@storageninja said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

4. Behavior. If their first post is raving about a product They will at the least get a follow from admins/CM's even if they don't trip the others. If their only 3-4 posts are about Proxmox (even if spread across a year) they are going to get frozen until they talk to a CM.

This also has not worked outside of the Proxmox and some limited cases. I catch this from time to time and often really obvious sock puppets are allowed to stay.

Have you reported them to the group admins...

Report the main admins to the group admins?

The Community admins are sock puppets on the storage forum? I haven't seen them ever post in that forum.

This gets back to an earlier point. As any community grows it's admins and rules will have to fracture. What's cool in the storage group isn't going to be cool in Newbies, or in the gong show that is the soapbox forum. Reddit survives because it decided that beyond some general community guidelines 100% consistent rules and moderation just wouldn't scale.

@rojoloco said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

So maybe it becomes a PR night are for Intel, but the actual guilty party will walk away scot free.

If he had an automated trading plan that his broker was trading on his behalf under specific instructions and the broker was not made aware to change said plan between the time he got the bad news and the sale he's not guilty.

Then again, the internet court is more fun.
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@rojoloco said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

@StorageNinja you can like them all you want, I'm over here in the "SW can suck all the dicks" camp. Your defense of the moderators will not sway that, nor will it change the inconsistent behavior they enjoy applying to a select few.

I'm in the camp that I assume they (like all private businesses) want to make money. When someone costs them more, than the value they bring they would do what you said they did.

@scottalanmiller said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

@rojoloco said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

@storageninja said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

@mlnews said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

Ars Technica agrees that Intel's CEO knew before he sold.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/01/intel-ceos-sale-of-stock-just-before-security-bug-reveal-raises-questions/

As long as his Broker executed this plan without MNPI he's in the clear.
10b5-1 doesn't actually require public disclosure but it does help avoid PR problems like this.

As a result of his stock sale, Krzanich received more than $39 million. Intel stock, as of today, is trading at roughly the same price as Krzanich sold stock at, so he did not yield any significant gain from selling before the vulnerability was announced

SEC officials could still see the maneuver as a trade based on insider information—especially if there was no other material reason for Krzanich to sell the stock.

He's following a set pattern on his trades, and no stockholders short of day traders were hurt by this. The SEC really isn't going to bother with this unless there is some sort of smoking gun found in the way of text messages telling his broker "SELL IT ALL NOW BAD SHIT GOING DOWN".

When you can click a button and make a cool $39 million, you can easily avoid the scrutiny of the SEC or anyone else. Money = power, power = easy to avoid legal entanglements.

Bloomberg is pointing out that this was NOT following his established pattern: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-08/intel-ceo-krzanich-s-stock-sales-seen-warranting-sec-examination

RTFA

Intel says Krzanich’s sales were part of a pre-arranged stock plan with an automated schedule, but some securities lawyers say the larger-than-usual transaction will probably be examined by the U.S. Securities & Exchange Commission

It's a clickbait headline. They will look into it, but if it was part of an automated schedule they will quickly close their case.

@rojoloco said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

@storageninja said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

@rojoloco said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

I've seen plenty of other posts about vendor behavior where they were being total dicks, threatening the revenue stream, etc, but they don't get banned. Their system of moderation is way too uneven and dependent on the particular mod. No consistency whatsoever.

. The moderation team is mostly volunteers, who are from all over the world with different cultures etc, so interpretation of rules may vary slightly. Throw in the fact that some forums (Virtualization, Storage, Soapbox) have custom rules in the form of a sticky. You can escalate it to CMs and David so from there you should see consistency.

You keep making vague statements about this though and are not really providing examples....

I'm in "permanent moderation". If I were to try to post anything, it gets delayed and sent to mods for approval. And because of that, I've been a ghost around there. My give-a-shit about reading or posting anything on SW is long gone. Not sure what is vague about that.

My understanding is that queue is a bit like the Leaver/Rager queue in Dota2. You get thrown in it for bad behavior, and if you prove that most of your posts are good and it is a waste of time for the mods to approve things they let you out. Inversely if the alternative (letting you post freely) causes more work for the mods and CM's then I can see why leaving you in that would make sense (Mod Time and CM's are not a limitless free resource, and it's an IT community, not a babysitter service).

@mlnews said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

Ars Technica agrees that Intel's CEO knew before he sold.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/01/intel-ceos-sale-of-stock-just-before-security-bug-reveal-raises-questions/

As long as his Broker executed this plan without MNPI he's in the clear.
10b5-1 doesn't actually require public disclosure but it does help avoid PR problems like this.

As a result of his stock sale, Krzanich received more than $39 million. Intel stock, as of today, is trading at roughly the same price as Krzanich sold stock at, so he did not yield any significant gain from selling before the vulnerability was announced

SEC officials could still see the maneuver as a trade based on insider information—especially if there was no other material reason for Krzanich to sell the stock.

He's following a set pattern on his trades, and no stockholders short of day traders were hurt by this. The SEC really isn't going to bother with this unless there is some sort of smoking gun found in the way of text messages telling his broker "SELL IT ALL NOW BAD SHIT GOING DOWN".

@rojoloco said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

I've seen plenty of other posts about vendor behavior where they were being total dicks, threatening the revenue stream, etc, but they don't get banned. Their system of moderation is way too uneven and dependent on the particular mod. No consistency whatsoever.

. The moderation team is mostly volunteers, who are from all over the world with different cultures etc, so interpretation of rules may vary slightly. Throw in the fact that some forums (Virtualization, Storage, Soapbox) have custom rules in the form of a sticky. You can escalate it to CMs and David so from there you should see consistency.

You keep making vague statements about this though and are not really providing examples....

It's rare I see any large scale internet forum have consistent moderation.

@fuznutz04 said in New laptop recommendation - Mom compatible:

Right, plus she also remotes into her work PC I believe, but not sure what app she uses for that.

Horizon View works just fine on a Chromebook. Just need to use the Blast Extreme protocol. Citrix has a reciever for chromebook also.
My wife uses VPN's and RDP's still like a barbarian, but for civilized remote users you should be fine.

@rojoloco said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

Sure, except that they specifically tell the community to report bad vendor behavior, but only allow certain people to do it.

Anyone can report behavior. Is the option grey'd out for you or something? That sounds like a bug.

@scottalanmiller said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

Pretty cut and dry insider trading, I wonder how much of hiding this flaw from the public was solely to hide the insider trading?

" To avoid charges of trading on insider knowledge, executives often put in place plans that automatically sell a portion of their stock holdings or exercise some of their options on a predetermined schedule, typically referred to as Rule 10b5-1(c) trading plans. According to an SEC filing, the holdings that Krzanich sold in November — 245,743 shares of stock he owned outright and 644,135 shares he got from exercising his options — were divested under just such a trading plan.

But Krzanich put that plan in place only on October 30, according to the filing. "

The plan was created in 2015 per Bloomberg.
You can also see the history of transactions here.

Since the plan was set up, Krzanich has had a common trading pattern. In February, he gets his equity payout under Intel’s performance-based incentive plan. For fiscal years 2015, 2016 and 2017, he received 89,581, 87,061 and 278,868 shares, respectively. Then in the last quarter of each of those years, he makes sales that are proportionate to the awards he got. In the last quarter of 2015, he sold 70,000 and in 2016 he sold more than 50,000. And this year, the sale was much larger in light of the large payout he got in February.

Looks like he traded on 11/29.
Market Close was at $43.95 that day. Market Close today is $44.74 today. I expect Intel shares to go up as people realize public clouds need to buy 20% more compute this quarter (and it's too late to qualify to move those workloads to ARM/AMD systems, nor can AMD/GF handle an order that large).

While I know insider trading doesn't require you actually make money off of it, I'd argue he missed out on gains by not waiting to sell until now. Intel is clearly fine, and while this is painful for a lot of people who have to go do patching, the market isn't punishing Intel in any serious way.

Note: the stock has doubled under Brian as CEO. This design decision was made in 1995 (well technically earlier given how long it takes to get something out the door).

Equifax is different in that their trades were NOT scheduled. Those yahoos are going to jail or to pay a token fine and promise not to do it again.
Also, EqualFax has only recovered 1/2 of its losses from the breach.

Full SEC yadayadayada disclaimer, I hold no Intel, but am considering a long position in the near future.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-04/intel-ceo-krzanich-slashed-stock-holdings-at-end-of-last-year

@scottalanmiller said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

@storageninja said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

4. Behavior. If their first post is raving about a product They will at the least get a follow from admins/CM's even if they don't trip the others. If their only 3-4 posts are about Proxmox (even if spread across a year) they are going to get frozen until they talk to a CM.

This also has not worked outside of the Proxmox and some limited cases. I catch this from time to time and often really obvious sock puppets are allowed to stay.

Have you reported them to the group admins...

@scottalanmiller said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

@storageninja said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

Not sure all the Intel hate is due here....

It's the unsubstantiated claims, cover up, and embargo. All unacceptable things. That they had a bug is not the issue.

The Embargo was technically the entire software industry conspiring including Linus himself. Would you rather have them released this back in June before anyone had any POC code?

@rojoloco said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

@storageninja said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

@rojoloco said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

Spiceworks is just a big bunch of adverts wrapped up inside a "community". And there are so many community members who are clearly shills for vendor x, y, or z that it makes most of the material there useless.

If someone is a paid shrill, (Or works for them) you can report it. I've gotten easily 2 dozen accounts banned for this over the years.

The mods there don't hate you as much as they hate me. In fact, bad vendor behavior (and me calling them out) is the very reason they (David Bass) had such a hard on to ban me. So, while you can report stuff and blah blah blah, I cannot.

They are a private, for-profit company. They can certainly ban you for being a dick, or having an impact on their revenue. I would actually be confused with them if they didn't (They need to make money, return value to share holders etc).

Meanwhile, I can confirm that VMware products are NOT vulnerable to Meltdown, the newest Fusion and Workstation were also not impacted at this time (They would depend on their guest OS being patched), and currently it looks like the CVE's in the wild for Spectre are being handled by the patch that went out on Dec 19th.

https://www.vmware.com/us/security/advisories/VMSA-2018-0002.html

Also Z-Series, Power, ARM, and AMD are impcated by Spectre. Not sure all the Intel hate is due here.... They got burned by Meltdown (which sucks if you use Xen PV which always had shit security IMHO for memory) but otherwise, this is a general-purpose multiplatform issue.

@scottalanmiller said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

@storageninja said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

@rojoloco said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

Spiceworks is just a big bunch of adverts wrapped up inside a "community". And there are so many community members who are clearly shills for vendor x, y, or z that it makes most of the material there useless.

If someone is a paid shrill, (Or works for them) you can report it. I've gotten easily 2 dozen accounts banned for this over the years.

Problem is they require that you prove their remuneration. Which of course you can’t. So while you can report, it does very little in most cases.

1. A shocking amount of them are stupid and post their real name which can be matched against linked in.

2. If they use language that clearly wouldn't be used by someone who works in IT (Product marketing people with no IT experience are TRIVIAL to spot for their use of buzzwords, avoiding of questions, and lack of understanding the nuance or state of the discussion).

3. IP Address logs. Match them against known accounts who were tagged as the company, or if they are using a known VPN exit gateaway to post.

4. Behavior. If their first post is raving about a product They will at the least get a follow from admins/CM's even if they don't trip the others. If their only 3-4 posts are about Proxmox (even if spread across a year) they are going to get frozen until they talk to a CM.

The storage group used to have a bad sock puppet problem, but it's largely been calmed down.

@irj said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

This might be the worst vulnerability we've seen to date...

You can plan for patching and maintenance. You cannot plan for unexpectedly losing resources. Can you imagine how many cloud providers this is going to affect. They share so many services across so many servers, I doubt they could afford to take a 30% resource hit. It could take down their whole environment.

No, It's @#%@% amazing for AWS. They can charge customers 30% more for the same amount of computing power. SaaS providers might get screwed, but they can also just pass this on to customers as a 10% cost increase and call it a day. On-Prem datacenters, this is potentially good (It's forcing people to run denser who were not coming close to the limit). people close to the limit will just have to order gear.

@rojoloco said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

Spiceworks is just a big bunch of adverts wrapped up inside a "community". And there are so many community members who are clearly shills for vendor x, y, or z that it makes most of the material there useless.

If someone is a paid shrill, (Or works for them) you can report it. I've gotten easily 2 dozen accounts banned for this over the years.

@scottalanmiller said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

This year has really shown that Intel has no idea what they are doing. Time to get to AMD and ARM procs and stay there.

ARM's impacted.

@scottalanmiller said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

Have you looked at Rocket or Mattermost? most of those Slack features I find really annoying and disable. They are just distracting.

If you are talking about /giphy that's fighting words...

In all seriousness, our engineers aggressively use that stuff (Tickets, and alerts and all kinds of fun interops with Jenkins, Jira etc).

@scottalanmiller said in pricing on websites:

Because you have to assume that they are going to just work for an hour, and deal with continuous billing as you go, it creates a lot of overhead and friction and you have to bill with the assumption that you are context switching on and off. It costs more to provide, it costs more to consume.

If you've paid for a block of hours ,and we are in within my scope for a project on the blocks you bought to deliver (with no weird issues) I have ZERO worries about the bill being disputed.

If your a customer who bills by the 15 minutes and disputes by the 15 minutes get ready for me to OVER document to make sure the bill will stick.