@wirestyle22 said in Nextcloud 11 Beta is out! Help test the **** out of it, we need privacy protecting alternatives more than ever...:
What if I'm the problem?
well, in that case you probably need the hug I talked about on the bottom of the blog
@wirestyle22 said in Nextcloud 11 Beta is out! Help test the **** out of it, we need privacy protecting alternatives more than ever...:
What if I'm the problem?
well, in that case you probably need the hug I talked about on the bottom of the blog
Guys, on the outlook integration - we introduced integration with Outlook for Calendar and Contacts last week, and we actually have what @agarcia-wier asks for available for customers. It is not announced so don't make noise about it yet (I will probably announce this or next week, but possibly move it to next year as just before Christmas ain't a great time for announcements).
So if you need this, it is a typical enterprise setting thing - contact [email protected] and we'll get you going. Sadly, no, it isn't open source, it is developed by a partner and just like with the iOS app - maybe in the future
We just released RC1 and - you can win a t-shirt by finding upgrading issues! https://nextcloud.com/blog/win-a-t-shirt-by-testing-nextcloud-11-rc1/
Meanwhile, the t-shirts can be won... https://nextcloud.com/blog/win-a-t-shirt-by-testing-nextcloud-11-rc1/
@dafyre said in Nextcloud community doing well - business, too.:
@jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud community doing well - business, too.:
And just for you mangolassians - tomorrow, we'll publish our Nextcloud 11 RC.
Will there be a way to upgrade from the Nextcloud 11 RC to the official release? If so, I've got an install I can test on.
Absolutely, that will work, no problem. We upgraded our internal instance to the first beta, I'll move my private to RC too. Thanks!!!
Now I'm not sure if I should wish you good luck finding bugs (to earn a t-shirt) or avoiding one to avoid having to restore a database backup
@JaredBusch let me hereby promise that if you find a bug going from oC 9 to Nc9 or Nc9 to Nc10 and we can find and fix the issue, you get a t-shirt!
I know many of you followed what happened with own/nextcloud. Last week I shared that our community is now, by far, the most active open source file sync and share project - that's something we're proud off. But long-term it is important the business side also works out.
We had secured three years of funding to get us started, but as of last week, we are profitable - that's right, took us only 6 months.
We're at 24 people now, making money - so you can imagine we have an aggressive growth strategy to execute ahead of us. We are looking to fulfill a LOT of different roles, from marketing and sales to various engineering positions like Qt, front- and back-end, Android, iOS and more. If you're interested in working with us crazy bunch - check out our jobs page
And just for you mangolassians - tomorrow, we'll publish our Nextcloud 11 RC. We really can use some testing as we're unable to find any more issues. You can win an exclusive Netcloud t-shirt if you find an upgrade bug (going from Nc10 to 11) so get ready! Keep an eye on our news page tomorrow.
@aidan_walsh yes, same with Nextcloud and Pydio. All projects are split up, as I note in the blog, which is why I also looked at statistics from OpenHub which looks at ALL repositories associated to a project.
However, in a conversation with Seafile, it came up that their specific way of organization and way of working does make them look worse than it is: while github also shows lines of code changed, OpenHub does not. And they say their core contributors work often with very large commits so it doesn't show the activity very well relative to other projects. It still shows a decline in activity the last year or so, though, but they said the fork had no effect as the German team didn't contribute code anyway.
Note that I wasn't out to specifically make anyone look bad, though obviously putting the numbers next to each other makes clear how things are, relatively speaking. That is why I sampled a wide range of numbers rather than cherry picking the last day or only one statistic.
Alas, it is still statistics, and you can only trust those you doctor yourself, so all the links in the article go directly to where I took the data from and people can check for themselves.
I honestly didn't know what I could do in a nicer and more balanced way to point out how we're doing and how that stacks up in the open source file sync and share world. But suggestions welcome.
I had a look at Nextcloud statistics and created some graphs from github and OpenHub. I've put in some other open source file sync and share projects as comparison - numbers mean little without context
What do you think, awesome or what?
So Nextcloud 11 Beta is out and I wrote a blog about why we really need tech like this... Here is a hint:
Nothing bad about Trump in particular, btw
Just that politics continue to move to more spying and NSA stuff
@momurda said in Nextcloud Calendar/Contacts now has Outlook integration.:
@jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud Calendar/Contacts now has Outlook integration.:
Let me add another one then: we just released a Windows Mobile app. Community FTW, this was done by a volunteer!
Wow that is great. As the last WP user in the world, thank you for doing this.
pay me back by sharing the news and telling people to use Nextcloud
Hmm, did you click the link about the terms of service in my blog? While Google has the right to do this, they might have "you give your firstborn to us by using GMail" in their terms of service for a year before anyone will notice, I bet. This reselling was OK for years. If they had a problem with it, they could've said something last year, or the year before, or the year before that or that and so on. Immediately and without any warnings shutting down people's entire digital lives is harsh and over the top, I certainly stand by that. What's legal isn't always what is right and vice versa.
Besides, it is ridiculous that they disallow you to sell a legally bought device to someone else. Nobody should have the right to tell you what to do with the hardware you paid for - that's an entirely different problem but one I'm also quite pissed off about. The industry is pushing all that sh** on us with their terms of service. Where is the time you bought something and then OWNED it?!?!!? What is next, you can get sued or go to jail for making changes to your car without consent from the company which sold it to you. Oh, wait, that is not 'next' but already happening.
Sorry for the rant
Let me add another one then: we just released a Windows Mobile app. Community FTW, this was done by a volunteer!
So I've just blogged about Google disconnecting a few hundred accounts of people who bought phones for a reseller. The reseller had been doing that since the first Nexus, never an issue - until now. Google changed their Terms of Service (you know, the 300 pages of dense legalese you never read) and bang.
I'd argue it isn't smart to have all your data in one spot, esp if you can get punished for breaking one rule somewhere you didn't even knew existed by killing access to all your email, chat, pictures, documents etc...
Also - do a backup of your stuff at Google, Apple, Dropbox etc NOW.
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Hi all,
For those who hadn't seen it: we now have Outlook integration for Calendar and Contacts! Cool, right
well I can talk to a service provider who has migrated, a few have - but we simply haven't done any huge migrations yet. Most of that is because big installations usually move slow - nobody wants to be first. Not that upgrading is a big deal, it is the same as an upgrade of course. In a way, once ownCloud does a new release customers should be more worried about that than about upgrading to Nextcloud... But yeah, how to explain that
We will see what Nextcloud 11 brings, people might find compelling reasons to upgrade at that point.
@JaredBusch said in Why (A)GPL software is better for your business - give input please!:
@jospoortvliet said in Why (A)GPL software is better for your business - give input please!:
@JaredBusch out of curiosity, what would make you (or customers) switch? Is security a real issue, stuff like this for example?
At this point it is the need for testing.
The problem is that one client has about 400gb of data in their ownCloud over something like 1 million files. I will have to kill replication for this VM in order to use the space currently consumed by the replica to test the upgrade.
Also, I have not seen many examples of people upgrading large instances. I am sure people have done it, but I have not read about it.
My understanding it to go from oc 9 to nc 9 then upgrade to nc 10. This will be very time intensive. Thus, expensive.
As oC 9.0 = Nc 9.0 (with some fixes) you can upgrade directly to Nextcloud 10 (oC 9.1 + some extra features). But, like any upgrade, yeah, you should test and that will indeed cost time.
With regards to big upgrades, a lot of providers have moved over loads of customers and we've migrated a bunch of customers as well but I'll see if we can do something public about that. It feels like insane to do a white paper about it as migration is just a normal upgrade but perhaps it helps convince some people...
@JaredBusch out of curiosity, what would make you (or customers) switch? Is security a real issue, stuff like this for example?
@JaredBusch I agree, it makes sense to wait and see - we've been telling people that, too. Though I wouldn't wait a full year - a year is a loooooong time in IT. It's been 6 months and no sign of rebound of oC nor any sign of us slowing down...
But sure, wait until Nextcloud 11 is out, I'd say. About one more month and you'll have a number of clear feature improvements to pick reasons to switch from!
I recently published a blog about open source licenses.
Now isn't hard to argue when proprietary licenses are so universally shitty - I link to this and it is a good read.
But of course there is more to it. Certainty about longevity of the support, quality - they are arguments, too. You still have to do your own investigation, actually I often see business people don't realize this nor know how easy it is.
So a special tip for all of you: want to know how an open source project is doing? Check out Github Pulse and other statistics!
As an exercise, and note I obviously have a stake here and am totally biassed about file sync and share, but here are four projects. Compare and tell me which one is doing great and which one is closer to death:
https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pulse
https://github.com/pydio/pydio-core/pulse
https://github.com/haiwen/seafile/pulse
https://github.com/owncloud/core/pulse
Be sure to digg a little deeper. Sometimes, the monthly view looks different. And there are more statistics behind the pulse, which come with developments over time.
You can see, for example, that pydio has a very cyclic development process here:
https://github.com/pydio/pydio-core/graphs/commit-activity
While Nextcloud is more variable:
And ownCloud is on the way down:
Note also that each project has more repositories, though these core repo's are often the most important ones, they don't tell the whole story and sadly as far as I know, github doesn't provide a real overview of an entire project.
So, when your boss asks you to pick a project or product to use, this should be a part of it: how healthy is development!