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@dyasny said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

Why would you even want IDE? Are you running a weird guest OS that doesn't support virtio?

I wouldn't want IDE.
The download (an ova file) came that way, the vendor exported it from ESXi

@dyasny I've installed oVirt a few times & found it simple for the most part.
I just thought it would help others on the forum that have oVirt questions.

@black3dynamite said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

Am I dreaming or IDE disks are not supported any more?
I could have sworn IDE disks used to be in Virt-manager, now I can't find them!!

Even with the latest version, its still there. It depends on the selection when you choose a template based on the OS you are installing. Pretty much IDE bus type is for compatibility purposes now.

If you were creating a VM, you either select "Generic default (default)" where it says, Choose the operating system you are installing, select "Generic default (default)".

If you were importing an VM that is using IDE, when choosing the operating system you are installing, search generic and select "Generic default (default)"

You da man, thx :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

https://www.trilio.io/triliovault/

This is for Nova only, from their website AFAICT. So doesn't apply to KVM. It requires an entire custom storage layer, and then can talk to the hypervisor.

That's no different from Scale HC3.

No...https://www.trilio.io/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/TrilioVault-for-RHV.pdf

Interesting, maybe they've done enough work to make it work. It would be awesome if someone had done this, but vProtect is extremely open that they have not.

Has anyone looked into Trilio enough to know if their backups are safe?

Trilio is the co from here https://mangolassi.it/post/448935

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

https://www.trilio.io/triliovault/

This is for Nova only, from their website AFAICT. So doesn't apply to KVM. It requires an entire custom storage layer, and then can talk to the hypervisor.

That's no different from Scale HC3.

No...https://www.trilio.io/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/TrilioVault-for-RHV.pdf

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

Since KVM doesn't support working agentless today (outside of very specialty systems like Scale HC3)

https://www.hycu.com/backup-and-recovery/backup-recovery-for-nutanix/
https://www.vprotect.io/
https://www.trilio.io/triliovault/

Why are you listing those? We've already looked at vProtect and we know from their own site that they don't take a working backup. So what's your goal in listing these?

You said Scale was the only one that had KVM "agentless"?

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

Since KVM doesn't support working agentless today (outside of very specialty systems like Scale HC3)

https://www.hycu.com/backup-and-recovery/backup-recovery-for-nutanix/
https://www.vprotect.io/
https://www.trilio.io/triliovault/

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

Should have said, I prefer agentless!!

Which, in this case is the same as saying "I prefer it not to work."

Agentless isn't an option here, period. Beyond that, why you have a "preference" for this kind of thing is an additional problem. IT should not have preferences, we should want proper solutions, however they work. Desiring a specific way of doing it, that can't be done, is an emotional mismatch.

I hear you loud & clear, but, I still prefer agentless.

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

In bold are the four that I would find most interesting and would only very rarely consider anything further. They range from free to pricy, self supported to enterprise support, and cover basically any possible scenario. Beyond those, I've had a lot of good luck with Netbackup in the enterprise.

Should have said, I prefer agentless!!

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

Kinda, they have an appliance (prepackaged ova exported from ESXi), I was going to test it.

Crash consistent only, I'd not use that. Why are you looking at it?

Why am I looking at the application?

Yes, why are you looking at a crash-consistent "backup" tool?

Not too many other choices out there!

What do you mean? There are endless awesome choices. This just isn't one of them. Why do you perceive a shortage of backup options?

List them out for me, please

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

Kinda, they have an appliance (prepackaged ova exported from ESXi), I was going to test it.

Crash consistent only, I'd not use that. Why are you looking at it?

Why am I looking at the application?

Yes, why are you looking at a crash-consistent "backup" tool?

Not too many other choices out there!

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

Quicker than installing the app from scratch.

Is it? You still need to get to VirtIO in the end. And you want a reliable method for the future. I would not want to do it this way unless there was no other choice.

For lab testing, this method "should" have been faster!

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

Kinda, they have an appliance (prepackaged ova exported from ESXi), I was going to test it.

Crash consistent only, I'd not use that. Why are you looking at it?

Why am I looking at the application?

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

You are trying to install vProtect the agentless backup product for KVM?

Kinda, they have an appliance (prepackaged ova exported from ESXi), I was going to test it.
Trying to convert the ova to qcow2
Quicker than installing the app from scratch.

# virt-v2v -i ova vProtect-Generic.ova -o libvirt -of qcow2 -os VirtualMachines
[   0.0] Opening the source -i ova vProtect-Generic.ova
virt-v2v: warning: making OVA directory public readable to work around 
libvirt bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1045069
[   3.5] Creating an overlay to protect the source from being modified
[   3.7] Opening the overlay
[   7.6] Inspecting the overlay
[  23.7] Checking for sufficient free disk space in the guest
[  23.7] Estimating space required on target for each disk
[  23.7] Converting CentOS Linux release 7.6.1810 (Core)  to run on KVM
virt-v2v: This guest has virtio drivers installed.
[  88.9] Mapping filesystem data to avoid copying unused and blank areas
[  89.8] Closing the overlay
[  90.0] Assigning disks to buses
[  90.0] Checking if the guest needs BIOS or UEFI to boot
[  90.0] Initializing the target -o libvirt -os VirtualMachines
[  90.1] Copying disk 1/2 to /vm/vProtect-sda (qcow2)
    (100.00/100%)
[ 108.3] Copying disk 2/2 to /vm/vProtect-sdb (qcow2)
    (100.00/100%)
[ 126.1] Creating output metadata
Pool VirtualMachines refreshed

Domain vProtect defined from /tmp/v2vlibvirtc251bd.xml

[ 126.3] Finishing off

xml file shows the disks as IDE.

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

I tried using virt-v2v to convert, for some odd reason, virt-v2v thinks the disks are virtio!!

VirtIO is what you would want. I assume that the V2V process is failing, though?

Funny enough, v2v does not fail!

So you get a working VM? What's the issue then?

No working vm, vm will not boot, says it can't find the disks

virt-v2v: This guest has virtio drivers installed.

@scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

@FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

I tried using virt-v2v to convert, for some odd reason, virt-v2v thinks the disks are virtio!!

VirtIO is what you would want. I assume that the V2V process is failing, though?

Funny enough, v2v does not fail!