Yeah, separate accounts work really nicely. Fast user switching comes in handy.
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Posts made by Deleted74295
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RE: What's the first thing you do when you get a new laptop or system?
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RE: Travel Tech: Working Mobile
@g.jacobse said:
Laptop, cell phone, chargers for same, external USB drives add up in space. can you justify having a 15foot network cable, router/VPN as well?
Pertino?
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RE: Never Let the Vendor Set Up a Server
@scottalanmiller said:
As in.... they aren't concerned about wasting time and money?
Why would you waste money when you can invoice for on site engineer time? = Profit.
If you don't know what is available to you as a customer, how will you know what other alternatives you have?
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RE: Never Let the Vendor Set Up a Server
@scottalanmiller said:
@Breffni-Potter said:
Budget + lack of understanding dictate many don't have it.
What kind of devices are people using as servers that you are seeing so often?
Budget does not always = software.
It often equals time and money for businesses, chiefly those of their IT support or internal team. Why do you need remote tools when you can walk up to a server? I mean we'll never need that obscure OEM feature that HP slapped on right?
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RE: Never Let the Vendor Set Up a Server
@scottalanmiller said:
@Breffni-Potter any server without an ILO/DRAC/IPMI I consider to be hobby class. Out of band management is really a minimum bar for a business class server. Every enterprise server has had that for decades.
Budget + lack of understanding dictate many don't have it.
I know of at least...80 servers without it off the top of my head.
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RE: Never Let the Vendor Set Up a Server
@scottalanmiller said:
Are you using the term "engineer" here to be the racker? There should be no engineering once you are done with the server, right?
The pure physical labour guys have had a tendency to do....interesting things. Clumsily knocking a server with force, yanking out a cable whilst being clueless.
Think closer to 1st line tech rather than warehouse worker.
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RE: Never Let the Vendor Set Up a Server
Here's an older video on what ILO is and why it is cool.
In the blunt non technical terms, it is a webserver and RDP client on the HP firmware which allows you to see the status lights, error warnings and tell the server what to do the same as if you had direct access via keyboard and mouse and were in front of it.
So if you were to do this cold it would go like this.
- Server arrives direct from HP to you
- Engineer racks the server, connects it up, does the initial ILO config (which you must do!)
- ILO is then tested with the engineer standing by when the server is powered up, he should not touch the server from now on.
- Remote engineer shutsdown and powers on the server 100% remotely.
- On site engineer leaves, all the same setup then happens in the rack.
This video might be more helpful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJN0mm0TQzM
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RE: Never Let the Vendor Set Up a Server
@Carnival-Boy said:
If you're thinking it might be better to configure the server remotely, how would you do that?
Personally, this is how I would recommend handling it.
First of all, we agree the details on how you want the host setup, IP address, ect.
Server goes to our office, it is then DOA tested, RAID configured and prepared, virtual host setup, then the performance on each item measured, network cards behaving over the LAN on Gigabit? Disk IOPS where they should be?
It's then powered down, given to a courier and delivered to your site, usually the day before the engineer is scheduled to arrive so if the courier is delayed, it does not delay the project or the engineer can be re-scheduled.
All the engineer is supposed to do, is arrive on site, unpack the server, get it into the rack, plug in the extra cabling and make it neat, then power it on, his laptop OR one of your machines is then used for us to remote onto your LAN, where we then talk to the ESXI host to check that everything is working as it should be.
Engineer leaves, you then enjoy your new server.
Now, the main question "How do I setup a cold brand new server without physical access to it"
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RE: SteamOS 2.25 Brewmaster Announced
I won't be buying one, too much like buying a games console. I already have a PC.
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RE: Never Let the Vendor Set Up a Server
And the courier fee does go up and down like a yoyo but it has been £25 for next day with insurance at one time, ballpark £75 at most.
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RE: Never Let the Vendor Set Up a Server
On my phone now so replies will be briefer.
Courier fee is extra, the £100 is for the engineer on site to fit only and it's a ballpark not a quote but I doubt it will be more.
You are very welcome to look at other IT providers and Id encourage you to do that. NTG could do what you are asking as well, don't want to turn this into touting for business as I know I am not the only one here who offers this.
The "how" we do it im happy to talk with you but conscious this might not be the platform.
@Danielle-Ralston is a good place that start for NTG.
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RE: Never Let the Vendor Set Up a Server
@scottalanmiller Stop multi posting
Hence why he still needs to pay for the body at some point in the chain? Isn't your suggestion that @Carnival-Boy does the bench and hands the remote over to someone else?
I'm talking about he gets whatever solution, he doesn't touch it until it's ready for production. All the work up till that point is done by others, different parts being on site or remote is a decision up to him.
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RE: Never Let the Vendor Set Up a Server
Oh wait I see.
In the ideal world that's what happens, body on site takes it out, racks it, gets the basics done, then hands over for all remote setup.
Does @Carnival-Boy want to spend the time doing that? So for convenience he'd pass it over to someone else completely to think about, if it is DOA on arrival, his provider just handles it all.
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RE: Never Let the Vendor Set Up a Server
Yeah there is that as a cost as well.
Yeah we can do that here, but if @Carnival-Boy wants a body over there to take it out of the box and fit it then he has that option.
It would be using a bod closer to you, rather than sending a London bod.
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RE: learn to code by building projects for nonprofits
Anyone know much about this? Looks like a great idea.
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RE: Never Let the Vendor Set Up a Server
1 hour on site for racking work at your office, £100 as a ballpark.
Actual IT work, DOA testing, Raid config, ESXI setup done on a bench in the corner. £300 ish.
So the extra £350 you currently pay, what do you get with that?
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RE: Never Let the Vendor Set Up a Server
@Carnival-Boy - First I must unleash the legal disclaimer.
"The following statement does not constitute a quotation or guarantee or offer of goods and services"
Why won't the server come from Misco to my office? Then I build the raid? Do the config? setup remote access tools, then stick it on a courier to you.
Alternatively, I stick it on a courier, then get an engineer who just does bench work over to you, he un-boxes the server, sticks it in the rack, makes it look good, then he walks off.
I then remote in and fix any tweaks or snags.
I am much more expensive than a bog standard racking engineer, so why would you pay my rate to take something out of a box? More importantly why are the supplier doing the config work on site for you? They should do it at their bench.
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RE: IT Infrastructure health checkup
@thecreativeone91 said:
However aside from the setting not being applied there's no actual harm to GP conflicts.
Speaking broadly, with a badly setup GP you can get delayed logins and other strange issues.
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RE: Why does Cisco essentially block the used market?
9 quotes with suggested hardware, ALL of them Cisco kit. So depressing.
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RE: IT Infrastructure health checkup
Yes you have to check logs for a one time audit, otherwise what's the point?
If the DC is screaming about an easily preventable group policy conflict, how will you pick that up apart from logs?