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@Mario-Jakovina said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
@CCWTech said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
There is one example.
It is geo blocked in my country.
But I do not find it racist
Should we call it unnecessarily discriminatory (Instead of racist?)
@EddieJennings said in Not much luck with Linux Distro's:
Have you tried Pop_OS with the preinstalled Nvidia driver? Been a while since I've used Pop, and the nvidia card I have is old, but I don't recall a bad experience.
No I haven't. I may check it out. Thanks!
@Obsolesce said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
@CCWTech said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
@Obsolesce said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
@Obsolesce said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
You are mistaking ancestry, ethnicity, culture, religion, nationality, and linguistic group with race.
Which of those you use to identify with is your choice. But are all different things.
So what race is someone who is mixed?
They get to choose... How does that even work?
Example?
Someone who is white and black. They almost always choose black. Why? How do they even have a choice?
@Obsolesce said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
@Obsolesce said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
You are mistaking ancestry, ethnicity, culture, religion, nationality, and linguistic group with race.
Which of those you use to identify with is your choice. But are all different things.
So what race is someone who is mixed?
They get to choose... How does that even work?
@Obsolesce said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
@scottalanmiller said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
No, no semi-competent technical person could ever use geo blocking for that reason.
So what is the website in question here? I want to know who is being a racist.
How does that change the issue. The website doesn't matter. It's only an example.
I agree with Scott.
None of the reasons you listed would be for legal reasons and certainly not for Best Practices. None of them justify GeoBlocking.
Sure you can say it's a policy. But what is that policy based on?
@EddieJennings said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
@CCWTech said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
The Amazon CloudFront distribution is configured to block access from your country. We can't connect to the server for this app or website at this time. There might be too much traffic or a configuration error.
I haven't used Amazon CloudFront, but have you confirmed that configuration is correct? Do you have any way to verify if there was any kind of burst of traffic that may have triggered some kind of policy that would cause traffic to be dropped?
On the question of racism, I would follow the technical issue to a potential policy issue. Then see if the policy was created to somehow allow and drop traffic based off of assuming the immutable physical characteristic (race) of the sender. My thought process wouldn't start with "traffic has been configured to be dropped because of a racist policy."
The company is looking into it so I am waiting to hear back. But living outside of the USA you encounter it often.
@Obsolesce said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
@CCWTech said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
No, I read it, but there was nothing to really support it. I mean all of those are things, but I guess they are posted as facts and I am trying to figure out how they would really apply... Remember we are just talking about blocking access to a website.
What's your evidence to support the site blocking is racially motivated, and not, lets say, regulatory or otherwise motivated?
I don't know which site you are referring to, so I can't really dive in. If it was a KKK website blocking your country's access, then sure. But that's likely not the site you're trying to go to.
I am asking if it is racist... It's my suspicion it is. It says blocking by country and countries are often divided by race. But yes, for all I know they put a list of countries in a hat and drew out names of countries they would block. It's just doubtful that's the case.
No, I read it, but there was nothing to really support it. I mean all of those are things, but I guess they are posted as facts and I am trying to figure out how they would really apply... Remember we are just talking about blocking access to a website.
I don't for sure know that it's an NVIDA problem but it's my understanding that NVIDIA isn't very Linux friendly. I can run Windows 10 or 11 on my Desktop with no problems. But Ubuntu/Kubuntu and it locks up every day or so.
I switched to Fedora and it's still crashing about once a day, but at least takes me to a login screen verses freezing the entire computer and capturing an error.
@Obsolesce said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
@CCWTech said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
@Obsolesce said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
@CCWTech said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
Living outside the USA has shown me how many supposed 'IT Security Policies' are in my opinion, racist.
I got this today:
403 ERROR
The request could not be satisfied.
The Amazon CloudFront distribution is configured to block access from your country. We can't connect to the server for this app or website at this time. There might be too much traffic or a configuration error. Try again later, or contact the app or website owner.
If you provide content to customers through CloudFront, you can find steps to troubleshoot and help prevent this error by reviewing the CloudFront documentation.
Generated by cloudfront (CloudFront)
Request ID: zomv8JAx_0HrRCvqqrBVKdUVY0WYlrp6F0BhpVut-NLG060J2fKC-w==
- I happen to be in Nicaragua right now, and I think it would be hard to argue that there are a lot of Nicaraguan hackers (In other words we aren't talking originating from China or Russia here).
- Do IT staff really think that the hackers they should worry about aren't familiar with VPN's or other ways of spoofing their IP or location?
This happens from time to time and today it I guess annoyed me more than it normally does.
Thoughts?
Not sure what race has to do with geographic restrictions. I'd say it more-so has to do with laws, regulatory, and other such things:
How does it not?
Race refers to the categorization of human beings into groups based on physical attributes such as skin color, hair texture, and facial features. Geographic restrictions, on the other hand, pertain to limits or boundaries set on certain areas or locations.
The primary reasons for geographic restrictions are usually grounded in legal, regulatory, and administrative decisions. These decisions might stem from concerns related to national security, resource management, public safety, or diplomatic reasons. Race doesn't inherently dictate these legal and regulatory restrictions. While it's true that some restrictions historically may have been influenced by racial prejudices, conflating race with the primary purpose of most contemporary geographic restrictions can be misleading.
While it's true that you CAN have different raced people in every country, @scottalanmiller example of a vendor blocking Spanish-speaking countries... Well, sure, anyone can live there. Scott and I for example live in a Spanish-speaking country, so no, it's not 100% by race, but there are certainly a lot of Chinese people in China for example...
I guess it's discriminatory and has no real value.
@Obsolesce said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
@CCWTech said in Is it racist? I think it is.:
Living outside the USA has shown me how many supposed 'IT Security Policies' are in my opinion, racist.
I got this today:
403 ERROR
The request could not be satisfied.
The Amazon CloudFront distribution is configured to block access from your country. We can't connect to the server for this app or website at this time. There might be too much traffic or a configuration error. Try again later, or contact the app or website owner.
If you provide content to customers through CloudFront, you can find steps to troubleshoot and help prevent this error by reviewing the CloudFront documentation.
Generated by cloudfront (CloudFront)
Request ID: zomv8JAx_0HrRCvqqrBVKdUVY0WYlrp6F0BhpVut-NLG060J2fKC-w==
- I happen to be in Nicaragua right now, and I think it would be hard to argue that there are a lot of Nicaraguan hackers (In other words we aren't talking originating from China or Russia here).
- Do IT staff really think that the hackers they should worry about aren't familiar with VPN's or other ways of spoofing their IP or location?
This happens from time to time and today it I guess annoyed me more than it normally does.
Thoughts?
Not sure what race has to do with geographic restrictions. I'd say it more-so has to do with laws, regulatory, and other such things:
How does it not?
@CCWTech It looks like the usefulness of it was discussed here: https://mangolassi.it/topic/22519/linux-geoip-blocking
I'm not someone who finds racism in everything, but this just struck me as odd. Maybe I am totally off base.
Living outside the USA has shown me how many supposed 'IT Security Policies' are in my opinion, racist.
I got this today:
403 ERROR
The request could not be satisfied.
The Amazon CloudFront distribution is configured to block access from your country. We can't connect to the server for this app or website at this time. There might be too much traffic or a configuration error. Try again later, or contact the app or website owner.
If you provide content to customers through CloudFront, you can find steps to troubleshoot and help prevent this error by reviewing the CloudFront documentation.
Generated by cloudfront (CloudFront)
Request ID: zomv8JAx_0HrRCvqqrBVKdUVY0WYlrp6F0BhpVut-NLG060J2fKC-w==
This happens from time to time and today it I guess annoyed me more than it normally does.
Thoughts?
@scottalanmiller Figured it out!
dpkg --purge pve-kernel-helper
Fixed it!
@travisdh1 Command not found.
The upgrade to 8 was sucessful. It's running 8 now. Just having those errors.
@travisdh1 It's an existing install. Just doing an upgrade.
I decided to make the leap from Debian 11 to 12 and Proxmox 7 to 8 to see if it would clear things up... Still issues:
root@nah-prox:/etc/apt/sources.list.d# apt --fix-broken install
Waiting for cache lock: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend. It is held by process 164834 (apt-get)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
6 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Setting up initramfs-tools (0.142) ...
update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
Setting up pve-kernel-5.15.108-1-pve (5.15.108-2) ...
Examining /etc/kernel/postinst.d.
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools 5.15.108-1-pve /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.108-1-pve
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.15.108-1-pve
Running hook script 'zz-proxmox-boot'..
Re-executing '/etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-proxmox-boot' in new private mount namespace..
No /etc/kernel/proxmox-boot-uuids found, skipping ESP sync.
E: 'zz-pve-efiboot' is not a valid hook script name.
run-parts: /etc/initramfs/post-update.d//pve-efiboot-sync exited with return code 1
run-parts: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools exited with return code 1
Failed to process /etc/kernel/postinst.d at /var/lib/dpkg/info/pve-kernel-5.15.108-1-pve.postinst line 19.
dpkg: error processing package pve-kernel-5.15.108-1-pve (--configure):
installed pve-kernel-5.15.108-1-pve package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 2
Setting up proxmox-kernel-6.2.16-6-pve (6.2.16-7) ...
Examining /etc/kernel/postinst.d.
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools 6.2.16-6-pve /boot/vmlinuz-6.2.16-6-pve
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.2.16-6-pve
Running hook script 'zz-proxmox-boot'..
Re-executing '/etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-proxmox-boot' in new private mount namespace..
No /etc/kernel/proxmox-boot-uuids found, skipping ESP sync.
E: 'zz-pve-efiboot' is not a valid hook script name.
run-parts: /etc/initramfs/post-update.d//pve-efiboot-sync exited with return code 1
run-parts: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools exited with return code 1
Failed to process /etc/kernel/postinst.d at /var/lib/dpkg/info/proxmox-kernel-6.2.16-6-pve.postinst line 20.
dpkg: error processing package proxmox-kernel-6.2.16-6-pve (--configure):
installed proxmox-kernel-6.2.16-6-pve package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 2
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of proxmox-kernel-6.2:
proxmox-kernel-6.2 depends on proxmox-kernel-6.2.16-6-pve; however:
Package proxmox-kernel-6.2.16-6-pve is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing package proxmox-kernel-6.2 (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of proxmox-default-kernel:
proxmox-default-kernel depends on proxmox-kernel-6.2; however:
Package proxmox-kernel-6.2 is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing package proxmox-default-kernel (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of proxmox-ve:
proxmox-ve depends on proxmox-default-kernel; however:
Package proxmox-default-kernel is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing package proxmox-ve (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Processing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.142) ...
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.2.16-6-pve
Running hook script 'zz-proxmox-boot'..
Re-executing '/etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-proxmox-boot' in new private mount namespace..
No /etc/kernel/proxmox-boot-uuids found, skipping ESP sync.
E: 'zz-pve-efiboot' is not a valid hook script name.
run-parts: /etc/initramfs/post-update.d//pve-efiboot-sync exited with return code 1
dpkg: error processing package initramfs-tools (--configure):
installed initramfs-tools package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
pve-kernel-5.15.108-1-pve
proxmox-kernel-6.2.16-6-pve
proxmox-kernel-6.2
proxmox-default-kernel
proxmox-ve
initramfs-tools
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)