Breaking Encrption on DVDs
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@Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
The proof is in who can access the data.
If the data sits on my personal "server" and I am the only one to access it, that's a digital backup for me. If the data sits on a server where multiple people can access it, that's different.
@aaronstuder said
No you buy a license for that kind of purpose.
That's no problem here, our license allows for anyone working for the company to view it.
Cool. Ask the company who supplied it to you for a digital copy.
Well, a DVD is a digital copy. He needs a "handy" copy.
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This is one of those tough ones where was is logical, seemingly logical and legal don't necessarily mix. It all comes down to complexities of US laws.
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@scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
Sure, that's common. The question becomes... how many can view it at the same time.
The video is only shown by our safety person in the conferance room during training. There could be up to 12 people in there, but they all work for the company.
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Keep in mind this isn't like a $20 DVD... Each DVD is about $500 each...
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
Sure, that's common. The question becomes... how many can view it at the same time.
The video is only shown by our safety person in the conferance room during training. There could be up to 12 people in there, but they all work for the company.
And that sounds like it easily falls within the license granted, but your immediate responses do not imply this.
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
Sure, that's common. The question becomes... how many can view it at the same time.
The video is only shown by our safety person in the conferance room during training. There could be up to 12 people in there, but they all work for the company.
That sounds fine. It's the network share and how many different display units can show it at once is the bigger concern, I think.
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@scottalanmiller I understand what your saying. I guess what I am saying it, what different does it make if 30 people watch it 30 times, or 30 people watch it 1 time? And if the 30 people aren't watching them it at the same time, then that's OK? How is that any different then 30 people in a conference room? All 30 people are watching it at the same time.....In this case, no ones know where the videos are located besides the safety person (and myself), but I get what your saying. There is a chance someone could stumble on them.
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@scottalanmiller I understand what your saying. I guess what I am saying it, what different does it make if 30 people watch it 30 times, or 30 people watch it 1 time? And if the 30 people aren't watching them it at the same time, then that's OK? In this case, no ones know where the videos are located besides the safety person (and myself), but I get what your saying. There is a chance someone could stumble on them.
No one is saying that the existing laws make sense. You cannot just break the law because you do not like it. Well you can, but then you also are accepting the penalty if caught.
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@JaredBusch said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
No one is saying that the existing laws make sense. You cannot just break the law because you do not like it. Well you can, but then you also are accepting the penalty if caught.
I have never seen someone get in trouble for copyright laws unless they are selling or distributing copyrighted works.
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@scottalanmiller I understand what your saying. I guess what I am saying it, what different does it make if 30 people watch it 30 times, or 30 people watch it 1 time?
The difference is licensed or not licensed.
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
In this case, no ones know where the videos are located besides the safety person (and myself), but I get what your saying. There is a chance someone could stumble on them.
If people don't know that they are there and they aren't being used concurrently, it sounds fine. That they are accessible over the network is not the same as them being accessed over the network. So, to me, that sounds acceptable. But, of course, proving that it was only not used concurrently might be difficult.
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@JaredBusch said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
No one is saying that the existing laws make sense. You cannot just break the law because you do not like it. Well you can, but then you also are accepting the penalty if caught.
I have never seen someone get in trouble for copyright laws unless they are selling or distributing copyrighted works.
Ever heard of a Microsoft audit? VMware audit?
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@scottalanmiller You mixing DVD Movie's and software. Let's stay on topic,
No, it is all about licensing. His statement is 100% on target.
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@scottalanmiller You mixing DVD Movie's and software. Let's stay on topic,
The enforcement rate for media piracy is far far higher than the enforcement rate for dodgy software. You can thank the big Hollywood conglomerates for that.
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@Breffni-Potter Yup
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@Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@scottalanmiller You mixing DVD Movie's and software. Let's stay on topic,
The enforcement rate for media piracy is far far higher than the enforcement rate for dodgy software. You can thank the big Hollywood conglomerates for that.
And yet... whole neighbourhoods of NYC are nothing but pirated movies being sold on the street and no one cares. It's bizarre how it is such a massive, public black market that you could arrest people non-stop for doing, but no one cares. But your download one movie online and you go to jail, or whatever. They go after the viewers, not the companies making the money, disproportionately.
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@scottalanmiller said
And yet... whole neighbourhoods of NYC are nothing but pirated movies being sold on the street and no one cares. It's bizarre how it is such a massive, public black market that you could arrest people non-stop for doing, but no one cares.
It's a money making racket by Hollywood.
If you want to keep fining people, don't touch the suppliers. They could not care less about it, they just want the reoccurring revenues either from sales or fines.
What makes me more money? fining someone $300 or getting them to buy a movie for $8.
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I would say by Hollywood labels.. Not the movies and people themselves. Hollywood is much like the music industry 90% of the money stays with the distributor.
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@scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
But your download one movie online and you go to jail, or whatever.
Not if you know what your doing
