Breaking Encrption on DVDs
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@scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@Jason said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
Yes. Handbrake+VLC will do the job. This should fall under "fair use"
Uh no, that's not what Fair use clause is for.. It falls under making a Backup copy of the copyrighted items you own.
Important to note that the moment that you do this the DVD is the backup, not the live copy. So the new one is the "real" one and the DVD is the dormant copy.
Yep. I figured that. We'd put the DVDs in a safe.
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@Jason how is that different then showing the DVD in a conference room?
Do I need to buy one DVD per person that views the DVD?
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@Jason how is that different then showing the DVD in a conference room? Do I need to buy one DVD per person?
That's different. The DVD comes with public viewing rights, not Duplication rights. What you did is effectively duplication..
EX we have copies of these at ever location that we paid for, if we did what you did we'd only have to buy them once for all of our locations. That's a clear violation of the license unless it allows for duplication.
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@Jason but didn't we just agree the DVD is now the backup? The only reason I did it was because we don't have computers with DVD drives anymore.
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@aaronstuder said
Do I need to buy one DVD per person that views the DVD?
No you buy a license for that kind of purpose. Read the copy-right notice at the front of every single DVD in existence.
A lot of commercial films are forbidden from public exhibition but you need to buy a license.
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@Jason but didn't we just agree the DVD is now the backup? The only reason I did it was because we don't have computers with DVD drives anymore.
Will only one person at a time be watching the video? Or can multiple people watch that copy at once on your network share.
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@Jason but didn't we just agree the DVD is now the backup? The only reason I did it was because we don't have computers with DVD drives anymore.
But the DVD is restricted to one use at a time, the file share for everyone isn't..
There for it's duplication.
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@Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@Jason but didn't we just agree the DVD is now the backup? The only reason I did it was because we don't have computers with DVD drives anymore.
Will only one person at a time be watching the video? Or can multiple people watch that copy at once on your network share.
Which adds the question, what if you put the original DVD onto a networked DVD drive? People used to do that.
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@Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@aaronstuder said
Do I need to buy one DVD per person that views the DVD?
No you buy a license for that kind of purpose. Read the copy-right notice at the front of every single DVD in existence.
A lot of commercial films are forbidden from public exhibition but you need to buy a license.
OSHA/Safety videos usually come with public viewing rights (within your company/entities and affiliates)
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@Jason said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
But the DVD is restricted to one use at a time, the file share for everyone isn't..
Not technically. DVDs can be multiuser, too.
This was a common way to buy one for many people even for floppies by 1983.
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@Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@aaronstuder said
Do I need to buy one DVD per person that views the DVD?
No you buy a license for that kind of purpose.
That's no problem here, our license allows for anyone working for the company to view it.
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@scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@Jason but didn't we just agree the DVD is now the backup? The only reason I did it was because we don't have computers with DVD drives anymore.
Will only one person at a time be watching the video? Or can multiple people watch that copy at once on your network share.
Which adds the question, what if you put the original DVD onto a networked DVD drive? People used to do that.
The Drive would likely thrash too much to be usable anyway..
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
That's no problem here, our license allows for anyone working for the company to view it.
Sure, that's common. The question becomes... how many can view it at the same time.
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The proof is in who can access the data.
If the data sits on my personal "server" and I am the only one to access it, that's a digital backup for me. If the data sits on a server where multiple people can access it, that's different.
@aaronstuder said
No you buy a license for that kind of purpose.
That's no problem here, our license allows for anyone working for the company to view it.
Cool. Ask the company who supplied it to you for a digital copy.
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@Jason said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
The Drive would likely thrash too much to be usable anyway..
That's the theory, but thanks to high speed drives and cache mechanisms, it takes very little to serve a LOT of video.
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@Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
The proof is in who can access the data.
If the data sits on my personal "server" and I am the only one to access it, that's a digital backup for me. If the data sits on a server where multiple people can access it, that's different.
@aaronstuder said
No you buy a license for that kind of purpose.
That's no problem here, our license allows for anyone working for the company to view it.
Cool. Ask the company who supplied it to you for a digital copy.
Well, a DVD is a digital copy. He needs a "handy" copy.
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This is one of those tough ones where was is logical, seemingly logical and legal don't necessarily mix. It all comes down to complexities of US laws.
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@scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
Sure, that's common. The question becomes... how many can view it at the same time.
The video is only shown by our safety person in the conferance room during training. There could be up to 12 people in there, but they all work for the company.
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Keep in mind this isn't like a $20 DVD... Each DVD is about $500 each...
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
Sure, that's common. The question becomes... how many can view it at the same time.
The video is only shown by our safety person in the conferance room during training. There could be up to 12 people in there, but they all work for the company.
And that sounds like it easily falls within the license granted, but your immediate responses do not imply this.
