Breaking Encrption on DVDs
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This question came to me because our Techs didn't want to handle it. We have a lot of safety training video DVDs they show new hires for OSHA stuff as well as re-training. Some are even custom for us.
Anyway the DVDs have been encrypted not allow copies. The problem is our laptops of course aren't coming with optical drives anymore and they want to be able to still show these on the conference rooms and classrooms without using the dvd player. The safety technician has a laptop he takes around.
Would breaking these to put them on his laptop as a file be acceptable? I would think so under the Library of Congress rules that seems to be fine to me
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
Yes. Handbrake+VLC will do the job. This should fall under "fair use"
Uh no, that's not what Fair use clause is for.. It falls under making a Backup copy of the copyrighted items you own.
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It calls into that weird situation of conflicting laws. One law says you can't, another guarantees your right to it. So it's a tough one.
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
We do this with our safety videos as well, but we store them on the network so there backed up and anyone can access them.
That would be illegal unless you bought a DVD for everyone who gets to them..
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@Jason he is making a backup copy.....
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@Jason said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
Yes. Handbrake+VLC will do the job. This should fall under "fair use"
Uh no, that's not what Fair use clause is for.. It falls under making a Backup copy of the copyrighted items you own.
Important to note that the moment that you do this the DVD is the backup, not the live copy. So the new one is the "real" one and the DVD is the dormant copy.
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@scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@Jason said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
Yes. Handbrake+VLC will do the job. This should fall under "fair use"
Uh no, that's not what Fair use clause is for.. It falls under making a Backup copy of the copyrighted items you own.
Important to note that the moment that you do this the DVD is the backup, not the live copy. So the new one is the "real" one and the DVD is the dormant copy.
Yep. I figured that. We'd put the DVDs in a safe.
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@Jason how is that different then showing the DVD in a conference room?
Do I need to buy one DVD per person that views the DVD?
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@Jason how is that different then showing the DVD in a conference room? Do I need to buy one DVD per person?
That's different. The DVD comes with public viewing rights, not Duplication rights. What you did is effectively duplication..
EX we have copies of these at ever location that we paid for, if we did what you did we'd only have to buy them once for all of our locations. That's a clear violation of the license unless it allows for duplication.
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@Jason but didn't we just agree the DVD is now the backup? The only reason I did it was because we don't have computers with DVD drives anymore.
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@aaronstuder said
Do I need to buy one DVD per person that views the DVD?
No you buy a license for that kind of purpose. Read the copy-right notice at the front of every single DVD in existence.
A lot of commercial films are forbidden from public exhibition but you need to buy a license.
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@Jason but didn't we just agree the DVD is now the backup? The only reason I did it was because we don't have computers with DVD drives anymore.
Will only one person at a time be watching the video? Or can multiple people watch that copy at once on your network share.
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@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@Jason but didn't we just agree the DVD is now the backup? The only reason I did it was because we don't have computers with DVD drives anymore.
But the DVD is restricted to one use at a time, the file share for everyone isn't..
There for it's duplication.
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@Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@Jason but didn't we just agree the DVD is now the backup? The only reason I did it was because we don't have computers with DVD drives anymore.
Will only one person at a time be watching the video? Or can multiple people watch that copy at once on your network share.
Which adds the question, what if you put the original DVD onto a networked DVD drive? People used to do that.
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@Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@aaronstuder said
Do I need to buy one DVD per person that views the DVD?
No you buy a license for that kind of purpose. Read the copy-right notice at the front of every single DVD in existence.
A lot of commercial films are forbidden from public exhibition but you need to buy a license.
OSHA/Safety videos usually come with public viewing rights (within your company/entities and affiliates)
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@Jason said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
But the DVD is restricted to one use at a time, the file share for everyone isn't..
Not technically. DVDs can be multiuser, too.
This was a common way to buy one for many people even for floppies by 1983.
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@Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@aaronstuder said
Do I need to buy one DVD per person that views the DVD?
No you buy a license for that kind of purpose.
That's no problem here, our license allows for anyone working for the company to view it.
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@scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:
@Jason but didn't we just agree the DVD is now the backup? The only reason I did it was because we don't have computers with DVD drives anymore.
Will only one person at a time be watching the video? Or can multiple people watch that copy at once on your network share.
Which adds the question, what if you put the original DVD onto a networked DVD drive? People used to do that.
The Drive would likely thrash too much to be usable anyway..
