Ransomware Conversation Derailment Discussion Fork
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@Rob-Dunn said in Ransomware Conversation Derailment Discussion Fork:
I can't tell you how many times I look to a community post looking for information specific to my question and see a bunch of noise cluttering up the topic. It's like trying to have a conversation when someone has the radio on static at 90db. If I were coming here to look for information about Cerber, or protecting my systems from this specific malware, I'd abandon it as soon as I scrolled down to the 4th post.
But the alternative is that there aren't those additional posts. Why would you abandon it if there was a lively conversation about something else rather than just no responses? I'm unclear on the reasoning here? What would make you stay?
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Yes, I'm invested in this particular topic, pretty much because I decided to finally say something about how I see every thread go here in ML, and it happened to me (again). I was annoyed for myself, but also felt that for other posters they would likely experience the same thing.
I'm discovering that maybe this is not a community for me.
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@Rob-Dunn said in Ransomware Conversation Derailment Discussion Fork:
Yes, I'm invested in this particular topic, pretty much because I decided to finally say something about how I see every thread go here in ML, and it happened to me (again). I was annoyed for myself, but also felt that for other posters they would likely experience the same thing.
I'm discovering that maybe this is not a community for me.
So, to be sure what I'm understanding as the issue, is really that it is me. You are upset that I get invested in topics and have a rather vigorous discussion that you perceive, and maybe are correct, is argumentative and that that takes the topic in a direction that you do not agree with?
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@scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Conversation Derailment Discussion Fork:
@Rob-Dunn said in Ransomware Conversation Derailment Discussion Fork:
Yes, I'm invested in this particular topic, pretty much because I decided to finally say something about how I see every thread go here in ML, and it happened to me (again). I was annoyed for myself, but also felt that for other posters they would likely experience the same thing.
I'm discovering that maybe this is not a community for me.
So, to be sure what I'm understanding as the issue, is really that it is me. You are upset that I get invested in topics and have a rather vigorous discussion that you perceive, and maybe are correct, is argumentative and that that takes the topic in a direction that you do not agree with?
Nope.
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So, if the issue is what I think that it is, would forking have fixed it? For example, this one was forked but you are upset with this one too. It wasn't the fork or lack thereof that was the concern but really it was my posting style that was the issue?
Because this thread has remained solidly on topic and it is this one that you are upset about, am I correct? So forking or derailment isn't the issue now, in this case, unless I am REALLY missing something.
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Is your complaint then with the fact that topics aren't so strictly moderated to keep subjects together. So they are like a quick reference card.?(short and to the point)
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@Rob-Dunn said in Ransomware Conversation Derailment Discussion Fork:
@scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Conversation Derailment Discussion Fork:
@Rob-Dunn said in Ransomware Conversation Derailment Discussion Fork:
Yes, I'm invested in this particular topic, pretty much because I decided to finally say something about how I see every thread go here in ML, and it happened to me (again). I was annoyed for myself, but also felt that for other posters they would likely experience the same thing.
I'm discovering that maybe this is not a community for me.
So, to be sure what I'm understanding as the issue, is really that it is me. You are upset that I get invested in topics and have a rather vigorous discussion that you perceive, and maybe are correct, is argumentative and that that takes the topic in a direction that you do not agree with?
Nope.
Then I'm lost. If the issue isn't me, as it normally is, what can be done to improve things?
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See that ludicrous display last night? What was Wenger thinking, sending Walcott on that early?
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It is generally very easy to see when a topic starts going off into lala land after a few posts that are not directly related to the OP. Yes they may have sprang from it and are tangentially related.
A moderator can easily lock the topic to prevent the rapid response from cluttering it all up for the minute that it takes him to fork out the conversation, and then unlock the thread again.
On top of moderators doing it, the users are at fault for perpetuating it.
The forum now has the capability to let you reply as a topic. Unfortunately you cannot easily quote and reply as a topic. That capability would be the easiest for helping user self split their topics.
Unfortunately, by @scottalanmiller's apparent design, this will never come to be because he does not like it.
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@JaredBusch said in Ransomware Conversation Derailment Discussion Fork:
Unfortunately, by @scottalanmiller's apparent design, this will never come to be because he does not like it.
How does my opinion influence it?
