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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @Dashrender said

      Sure, but the IP isn't listed in the cert, so the browser you're using to connect to the mail server doesn't see the IP in the cert.. so there's an error. I think there used to be a time when you could add an IP... but not sure that's allowed anymore.

      So, you need two certs then?

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said

        Also, you have a Palto Alto - the price for a SSL cert should be darn near meaningless. 😉

        Don' t be a hater...

        LOL.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          I'm using a GoDaddy cert for my Exchange server - my Multi-domain SAN (not SDN) cert is worth it.

          When you can use the tools to automatically request, install, etc the SSL Then Let's Encrypt is worth it.. but when you have to deal with a lot of manual junk.. nah...

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @BRRABill
            last edited by

            @BRRABill said:

            @Dashrender said

            Sure, but the IP isn't listed in the cert, so the browser you're using to connect to the mail server doesn't see the IP in the cert.. so there's an error. I think there used to be a time when you could add an IP... but not sure that's allowed anymore.

            So, you need two certs then?

            Why would you need two?

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said

              Why would you need two?

              I've only ever followed the directions from MDaemon to generate a certificate for what I need, which is always in the format of

              mail.domain.com

              Are you saying I can add the straight IP as well? On the same one?

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                according to this
                https://support.globalsign.com/customer/portal/articles/1216536-securing-a-public-ip-address---ssl-certificates

                you can have the IP be the common name. You can use SAN Secondary Address Names to a single cert (SAN certs cost more money, but one cert can have at least 5 additional names, maybe more, so you save money )

                So if you wanted the IP to not give errors, then you could set the IP as the common name, and mail.domain.com in the SAN

                Though I wonder, why do you need the IP itself to not give an error? Do you purposefully have users use the IP? If not, and it's only you using the IP, then why spend money, you know you can safely ignore the error.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  That might work for my other stuff, though.

                  If I can do DOMAIN.COM and then

                  vpn.domain.com
                  mail.domain.com
                  iDRAC.domain.com

                  to fill all my certificate needs

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                  • iroalI
                    iroal
                    last edited by

                    Startssl is free, It's easy to create and install.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      @BRRABill said in SSL Certificates:

                      That might work for my other stuff, though.

                      If I can do DOMAIN.COM and then

                      vpn.domain.com
                      mail.domain.com
                      iDRAC.domain.com

                      to fill all my certificate needs

                      Why would you do domain.com? That's not a real service is it? it's generally better off being a redirector to a real service like www.domain.com.

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        @BRRABill Yeah. Last time we updated at work I paid a little extra for a wildcard cert. So *.domain.com, it's all valid for the one cert.

                        For my personal server, I just run Let's Encrypt.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @travisdh1
                          last edited by

                          @travisdh1 said in SSL Certificates:

                          @BRRABill Yeah. Last time we updated at work I paid a little extra for a wildcard cert. So *.domain.com, it's all valid for the one cert.

                          For my personal server, I just run Let's Encrypt.

                          How much is a little? The last time I looked (it's been many years) a wildcard cert was 5X the cost of a normal cert, maybe more.

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                          • travisdh1T
                            travisdh1 @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in SSL Certificates:

                            @travisdh1 said in SSL Certificates:

                            @BRRABill Yeah. Last time we updated at work I paid a little extra for a wildcard cert. So *.domain.com, it's all valid for the one cert.

                            For my personal server, I just run Let's Encrypt.

                            How much is a little? The last time I looked (it's been many years) a wildcard cert was 5X the cost of a normal cert, maybe more.

                            You can pickup a Comodo cert for $94/year. Looks like today's pricing has majorly changed since the last time I bought a cert, single site certs for $9. Let's Encrypt is having a real nice effect on the market!

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said

                              Why would you do domain.com? That's not a real service is it? it's generally better off being a redirector to a real service like www.domain.com.

                              That was an example.

                              Even after yesterday I still seem to be afraid to post real details online!

                              vpn.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com
                              mail.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com
                              iDRAC.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                For me it wasn't so much the cost as wondering of there was a better way than what I was doing.

                                Part optimization, part learning what else might be out there.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  @BRRABill said in SSL Certificates:

                                  @Dashrender said

                                  Why would you do domain.com? That's not a real service is it? it's generally better off being a redirector to a real service like www.domain.com.

                                  That was an example.

                                  Even after yesterday I still seem to be afraid to post real details online!

                                  vpn.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com
                                  mail.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com
                                  iDRAC.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com

                                  LOL - if the host name is in DNS - then your non posting of the real links here is doesn't gain you anything.

                                  Google undoubtedly is looking through all of the newly registered domains daily (or rather minutely). Then Google looks to see if those domains have DNS entries, if they do, they then query every record it can in DNS. Then I bet it attempts to connect to at least the root of every record listed there, then starts the spidering.

                                  The main reason to not post your real domain is to keep script kiddies who peruse forums like these for things to attack just because you were talking about it.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    Look I wouldn't make fun of everyone's else fears.

                                    Seriously, just kidding. I'm learning. That's the best part about ML, not just teaching, but also breaking down dumb ideas people hold on to.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      Well you helped break one wide open on me today - that spiders can't just call web servers anywhere they wanna go.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @travisdh1
                                        last edited by

                                        @travisdh1 said

                                        You can pickup a Comodo cert for $94/year. Looks like today's pricing has majorly changed since the last time I bought a cert, single site certs for $9. Let's Encrypt is having a real nice effect on the market!

                                        Where did you see $9?

                                        On Comodo the cheapest I see is $76.95.

                                        Or did you mean elsewhere?

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said in SSL Certificates:

                                          @travisdh1 said

                                          You can pickup a Comodo cert for $94/year. Looks like today's pricing has majorly changed since the last time I bought a cert, single site certs for $9. Let's Encrypt is having a real nice effect on the market!

                                          Where did you see $9?

                                          On Comodo the cheapest I see is $76.95.

                                          Or did you mean elsewhere?

                                          You have to look elsewhere. I forget where exactly I saw that price, but it wasn't direct.

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                                          • A
                                            Alex Sage
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                                            https://www.ssls.com/

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