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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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      @gjacobse said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

      Mainly a curious thought. Like any one with the ERL and the UniFI controller, I use two IPs to manage my network. It was a wondering if you could combine and use the single IP and the right port.

      For myself since I only have / need one site to manage that all was in one place. for a multi site company it doesn't really make sense. But for me, then the ERL has the WiFI db and all that is needed is any browswer.

      How often are you needing to manage your Unifi from outside of the network? What's the benefit to having fewer IPs?

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
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        They make a product for that. The USG

        https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @gjacobse said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

          Mainly a curious thought. Like any one with the ERL and the UniFI controller, I use two IPs to manage my network. It was a wondering if you could combine and use the single IP and the right port.

          For myself since I only have / need one site to manage that all was in one place. for a multi site company it doesn't really make sense. But for me, then the ERL has the WiFI db and all that is needed is any browswer.

          How often are you needing to manage your Unifi from outside of the network? What's the benefit to having fewer IPs?

          He was not saying from outside the network for himself. just that he has to use 2 IP addresses locally to manage everything.

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          • gjacobseG
            gjacobse @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said:

            They make a product for that. The USG

            https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

            Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

            I'm good with leaving what I have running.

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              Jason Banned @gjacobse
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              @gjacobse said:

              @JaredBusch said:

              They make a product for that. The USG

              https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

              Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

              I'm good with leaving what I have running.

              Likely not MIPS based though.

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              • gjacobseG
                gjacobse @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @gjacobse said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

                Mainly a curious thought. Like any one with the ERL and the UniFI controller, I use two IPs to manage my network. It was a wondering if you could combine and use the single IP and the right port.

                For myself since I only have / need one site to manage that all was in one place. for a multi site company it doesn't really make sense. But for me, then the ERL has the WiFI db and all that is needed is any browswer.

                How often are you needing to manage your Unifi from outside of the network? What's the benefit to having fewer IPs?

                Not so much for management as monitoring.. what devices are connected, did either of the APs drop out, who's dogging the network..

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @gjacobse said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

                  Mainly a curious thought. Like any one with the ERL and the UniFI controller, I use two IPs to manage my network. It was a wondering if you could combine and use the single IP and the right port.

                  For myself since I only have / need one site to manage that all was in one place. for a multi site company it doesn't really make sense. But for me, then the ERL has the WiFI db and all that is needed is any browswer.

                  How often are you needing to manage your Unifi from outside of the network? What's the benefit to having fewer IPs?

                  He was not saying from outside the network for himself. just that he has to use 2 IP addresses locally to manage everything.

                  Oh, that seems odd as two IPs or two URLs is the same amount of effort. Not sure how it would lower the effort.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                    last edited by

                    @gjacobse said:

                    @JaredBusch said:

                    They make a product for that. The USG

                    https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

                    Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

                    I'm good with leaving what I have running.

                    There is a product that allows them to be managed as one. The key difference is that the USG uses the Unifi interface, the ERL does not.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                      last edited by

                      @gjacobse said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @gjacobse said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

                      Mainly a curious thought. Like any one with the ERL and the UniFI controller, I use two IPs to manage my network. It was a wondering if you could combine and use the single IP and the right port.

                      For myself since I only have / need one site to manage that all was in one place. for a multi site company it doesn't really make sense. But for me, then the ERL has the WiFI db and all that is needed is any browswer.

                      How often are you needing to manage your Unifi from outside of the network? What's the benefit to having fewer IPs?

                      Not so much for management as monitoring.. what devices are connected, did either of the APs drop out, who's dogging the network..

                      how would it aid in monitoring? Wouldn't it make it slightly harder?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Jason
                        last edited by

                        @Jason said:

                        @gjacobse said:

                        @JaredBusch said:

                        They make a product for that. The USG

                        https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

                        Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

                        I'm good with leaving what I have running.

                        Likely not MIPS based though.

                        My guess is that it is, otherwise they would have to maintain more hardware.

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                          Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Jason said:

                          @gjacobse said:

                          @JaredBusch said:

                          They make a product for that. The USG

                          https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

                          Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

                          I'm good with leaving what I have running.

                          Likely not MIPS based though.

                          My guess is that it is, otherwise they would have to maintain more hardware.

                          Yeah apperenlty it has the exact same MIPS processor as the ERL. Now I'm surpised someone hasn't pulled the unifi packages off of it and moved it to the ERL then.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Jason
                            last edited by

                            @Jason said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Jason said:

                            @gjacobse said:

                            @JaredBusch said:

                            They make a product for that. The USG

                            https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

                            Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

                            I'm good with leaving what I have running.

                            Likely not MIPS based though.

                            My guess is that it is, otherwise they would have to maintain more hardware.

                            Yeah apperenlty it has the exact same MIPS processor as the ERL. Now I'm surpised someone hasn't pulled the unifi packages off of it and moved it to the ERL then.

                            Not sure if it has the same amount of memory, but I would guess that it does. Seems pretty likely that you could do it, it's all GPL.

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                              Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Jason said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Jason said:

                              @gjacobse said:

                              @JaredBusch said:

                              They make a product for that. The USG

                              https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

                              Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

                              I'm good with leaving what I have running.

                              Likely not MIPS based though.

                              My guess is that it is, otherwise they would have to maintain more hardware.

                              Yeah apperenlty it has the exact same MIPS processor as the ERL. Now I'm surpised someone hasn't pulled the unifi packages off of it and moved it to the ERL then.

                              Not sure if it has the same amount of memory.

                              Nope. 512MB for ERL, 2GB for the USG.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Jason
                                last edited by

                                @Jason said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Jason said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Jason said:

                                @gjacobse said:

                                @JaredBusch said:

                                They make a product for that. The USG

                                https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

                                Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

                                I'm good with leaving what I have running.

                                Likely not MIPS based though.

                                My guess is that it is, otherwise they would have to maintain more hardware.

                                Yeah apperenlty it has the exact same MIPS processor as the ERL. Now I'm surpised someone hasn't pulled the unifi packages off of it and moved it to the ERL then.

                                Not sure if it has the same amount of memory.

                                Nope. 512MB for ERL, 2GB for the USG.

                                That makes sense. The Unifi system uses a ton more overhead.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

                                  One end goal would be for home use. Most home users use a router/AP all in one device. It would be nice to have the same for them, but with the AP external.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @Jason
                                    last edited by

                                    @Jason said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Jason said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Jason said:

                                    @gjacobse said:

                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    They make a product for that. The USG

                                    https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

                                    Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

                                    I'm good with leaving what I have running.

                                    Likely not MIPS based though.

                                    My guess is that it is, otherwise they would have to maintain more hardware.

                                    Yeah apperenlty it has the exact same MIPS processor as the ERL. Now I'm surpised someone hasn't pulled the unifi packages off of it and moved it to the ERL then.

                                    Not sure if it has the same amount of memory.

                                    Nope. 512MB for ERL, 2GB for the USG.

                                    Welp.. so much for that idea.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

                                      One end goal would be for home use. Most home users use a router/AP all in one device. It would be nice to have the same for them, but with the AP external.

                                      That's very different than what was asked, though. It would be all the effort of two devices if you just loaded the tool into the ERL as it would not be part of the main interface. So it would be exactly the same to an end user as if they had two IP addresses because they'd have two URLs. So that can't be a reason for going down this path.

                                      The UGS approach is different because that merges the managed into one. What the OP is doing here is not reducing the effort (and no home user is going to be custom compiling for MIPS and overburdoning their firewalls with extra tools) but just trading a second IP for a second URL. No win from a useability perspective.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

                                        One end goal would be for home use. Most home users use a router/AP all in one device. It would be nice to have the same for them, but with the AP external.

                                        That's very different than what was asked, though. It would be all the effort of two devices if you just loaded the tool into the ERL as it would not be part of the main interface. So it would be exactly the same to an end user as if they had two IP addresses because they'd have two URLs. So that can't be a reason for going down this path.

                                        The UGS approach is different because that merges the managed into one. What the OP is doing here is not reducing the effort (and no home user is going to be custom compiling for MIPS and overburdoning their firewalls with extra tools) but just trading a second IP for a second URL. No win from a useability perspective.

                                        Oh I agree no home user will do that.
                                        It would be nice if the Unifi security gateway device had the controller software built in (does anyone know? maybe it does?).

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          It would be nice if the Unifi security gateway device had the controller software built in (does anyone know? maybe it does?).

                                          I think that it does.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            It would be nice if the Unifi security gateway device had the controller software built in (does anyone know? maybe it does?).

                                            I think that it does.

                                            SHIT! really? I have a friend who has a USG, but has no wired devices so he didn't install it because he was waiting for his Controller Stick, thinking that the USG didn't have that built in.

                                            Something to try tonight!

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