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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @Dashrender
      last edited by wirestyle22

      @Dashrender said:

      @coliver said:

      @Dashrender said:

      OK Found this link
      https://products.office.com/en-us/nonprofit/office-365-nonprofit-plans-and-pricing

      Looks like Non-Profits do get File storage and sharing with 1 TB storage/user in the E1 plan.

      That's OneDrive for Business. While it does use Sharepoint as a backend I don't think it works that same as a team site.

      Yeah - I know, that's why i didn't list SharePoint - so the question then becomes, how do you keep something in your own ODfB yet share it with the rest of the company and make it easy for them to locate?

      That's the issue. That's what you pay for with Sharepoint. This is based on what was explained to me by Microsoft.

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22 @Dashrender
        last edited by wirestyle22

        @Dashrender said:

        how does the sync client with with oC?

        Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?

        If there are four folders in the root of S:
        IT
        Finance
        Billing
        Polices

        Let's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?

        It syncs your changes using a sync folder you designate on your local PC. Download > Edit > Upload. You don't have to manually do it. The client takes care of it for you.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said:

          It syncs your changes using a sync folder you designate on your local PC. Download > Edit > Upload. You don't have to manually do it. The client takes care of it for you.

          Sure the client takes care of the items you choose to sync. But what about things you don't sync?

          I'm sure your world is like mine, you don't want everyone syncing 20+ GB of files locally, you only want them to sync the typical stuff, hopefully only a few hundred megs.
          But that leaves the question, how do you handle the a-typical?

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          • coliverC
            coliver
            last edited by

            Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @coliver
              last edited by

              @coliver said:

              Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.

              Yes it does

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                @wirestyle22 said:

                It syncs your changes using a sync folder you designate on your local PC. Download > Edit > Upload. You don't have to manually do it. The client takes care of it for you.

                Sure the client takes care of the items you choose to sync. But what about things you don't sync?

                I'm sure your world is like mine, you don't want everyone syncing 20+ GB of files locally, you only want them to sync the typical stuff, hopefully only a few hundred megs.
                But that leaves the question, how do you handle the a-typical?

                No idea. @dafyre and I were talking about this today in PM's

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver said:

                  Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.

                  Boy, I would hope so, otherwise it becomes useless pretty quick. You have 1 TB of data in oC, and a 250 GB SSD local, now syncing isn't an option.. yeah... bad

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @coliver said:

                    Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.

                    Boy, I would hope so, otherwise it becomes useless pretty quick. You have 1 TB of data in oC, and a 250 GB SSD local, now syncing isn't an option.. yeah... bad

                    The option there is to not use the sync client at all. Only download things when you need them from either the web client of a webdav client, which is built directly into Windows.

                    I've never used the sync client everything I do is directly over webdav. I go to the web client occasionly but webdav makes it so much easier.

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @coliver
                      last edited by wirestyle22

                      @coliver said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @coliver said:

                      Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.

                      Boy, I would hope so, otherwise it becomes useless pretty quick. You have 1 TB of data in oC, and a 250 GB SSD local, now syncing isn't an option.. yeah... bad

                      The option there is to not use the sync client at all. Only download things when you need them from either the web client of a webdav client, which is built directly into Windows.

                      I've never used the sync client everything I do is directly over webdav. I go to the web client occasionly but webdav makes it so much easier.

                      This seems like something I'd be interested in. Any good documentation I can read? Can you create logon scripts for domain accounts using webdav?

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @wirestyle22
                        last edited by

                        @wirestyle22 said:

                        @coliver said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @coliver said:

                        Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.

                        Boy, I would hope so, otherwise it becomes useless pretty quick. You have 1 TB of data in oC, and a 250 GB SSD local, now syncing isn't an option.. yeah... bad

                        The option there is to not use the sync client at all. Only download things when you need them from either the web client of a webdav client, which is built directly into Windows.

                        I've never used the sync client everything I do is directly over webdav. I go to the web client occasionly but webdav makes it so much easier.

                        This seems like something I'd be interested in. Any good documentation I can read? Can you create logon scripts for domain accounts using webdav?

                        You should be able to. Webdav on Windows can be funky though.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver
                          last edited by

                          https://doc.owncloud.org/server/7.0/user_manual/files/files.html

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @coliver
                            last edited by

                            @coliver said:

                            The option there is to not use the sync client at all. Only download things when you need them from either the web client of a webdav client, which is built directly into Windows.

                            Yeah certain people here at ML would go nuts if you wanted to sync. 🙂

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              how does the sync client with with oC?

                              Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?

                              If there are four folders in the root of S:
                              IT
                              Finance
                              Billing
                              Polices

                              Let's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?

                              Not any more. The new oC Client will allow you to set up multiple accounts and sync them to different folders on your computer.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @dafyre
                                last edited by

                                @dafyre said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                how does the sync client with with oC?

                                Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?

                                If there are four folders in the root of S:
                                IT
                                Finance
                                Billing
                                Polices

                                Let's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?

                                Not any more. The new oC Client will allow you to set up multiple accounts and sync them to different folders on your computer.

                                Does this somehow solve the problem I presented?

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @dafyre said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  how does the sync client with with oC?

                                  Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?

                                  If there are four folders in the root of S:
                                  IT
                                  Finance
                                  Billing
                                  Polices

                                  Let's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?

                                  Not any more. The new oC Client will allow you to set up multiple accounts and sync them to different folders on your computer.

                                  Does this somehow solve the problem I presented?

                                  No. Additionally, with the Sync client, you can uncheck any folder you do not want to sync locally. Only 1 account needed.

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @dafyre said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    how does the sync client with with oC?

                                    Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?

                                    If there are four folders in the root of S:
                                    IT
                                    Finance
                                    Billing
                                    Polices

                                    Let's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?

                                    Not any more. The new oC Client will allow you to set up multiple accounts and sync them to different folders on your computer.

                                    Does this somehow solve the problem I presented?

                                    No. I must have misread what you posted yesterday. But for that instance, WebDav specifically would require no syncing. Although, I would suggest creating a "master" account that is the owner of the IT, Finance, Billing, & Policies folders... and then grant access / shared the folders to the appropriate people from the ownCloud web interface...

                                    That way Sally Jane in Finance can't see any files in the IT folder, etc.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @dafyre
                                      last edited by

                                      @dafyre said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @dafyre said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      how does the sync client with with oC?

                                      Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?

                                      If there are four folders in the root of S:
                                      IT
                                      Finance
                                      Billing
                                      Polices

                                      Let's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?

                                      Not any more. The new oC Client will allow you to set up multiple accounts and sync them to different folders on your computer.

                                      Does this somehow solve the problem I presented?

                                      No. I must have misread what you posted yesterday. But for that instance, WebDav specifically would require no syncing. Although, I would suggest creating a "master" account that is the owner of the IT, Finance, Billing, & Policies folders... and then grant access / shared the folders to the appropriate people from the ownCloud web interface...

                                      That way Sally Jane in Finance can't see any files in the IT folder, etc.

                                      This doesn't solve the presented problem either. But raises a question - are you saying you can give file level access permissions in oC? A single folder can't have a file or subfolder that is allowed for some but not others?

                                      I actually wouldn't have a problem with that if you get rid of file structure altogether, go to pure permissions based access with Tag based searching, but that is a hard concept for us old dogs to handle. Does oC do that?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.

                                        Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.

                                          Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?

                                          You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.

                                            Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?

                                            That would, indeed, be awesome.

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