Installing ownCloud 9 on CentOS 7
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@Dashrender said:
@dafyre said:
@Dashrender said:
how does the sync client with with oC?
Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?
If there are four folders in the root of S:
IT
Finance
Billing
PolicesLet's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?
Not any more. The new oC Client will allow you to set up multiple accounts and sync them to different folders on your computer.
Does this somehow solve the problem I presented?
No. I must have misread what you posted yesterday. But for that instance, WebDav specifically would require no syncing. Although, I would suggest creating a "master" account that is the owner of the IT, Finance, Billing, & Policies folders... and then grant access / shared the folders to the appropriate people from the ownCloud web interface...
That way Sally Jane in Finance can't see any files in the IT folder, etc.
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@dafyre said:
@Dashrender said:
@dafyre said:
@Dashrender said:
how does the sync client with with oC?
Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?
If there are four folders in the root of S:
IT
Finance
Billing
PolicesLet's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?
Not any more. The new oC Client will allow you to set up multiple accounts and sync them to different folders on your computer.
Does this somehow solve the problem I presented?
No. I must have misread what you posted yesterday. But for that instance, WebDav specifically would require no syncing. Although, I would suggest creating a "master" account that is the owner of the IT, Finance, Billing, & Policies folders... and then grant access / shared the folders to the appropriate people from the ownCloud web interface...
That way Sally Jane in Finance can't see any files in the IT folder, etc.
This doesn't solve the presented problem either. But raises a question - are you saying you can give file level access permissions in oC? A single folder can't have a file or subfolder that is allowed for some but not others?
I actually wouldn't have a problem with that if you get rid of file structure altogether, go to pure permissions based access with Tag based searching, but that is a hard concept for us old dogs to handle. Does oC do that?
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It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
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@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
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@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
That would, indeed, be awesome.
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
You would have to mount it as a filesystem, I think. Or they might see it as a network share.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
You would have to mount it as a filesystem, I think. Or they might see it as a network share.
This
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server. Granted not as safe as say Sharepoint or some other method but with built in versioning you can restore from the ownCloud interface instead of a backup.
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
Definitely true. Using sync though is an issue for things like Terminal Servers because it creates sync folders in every profile. Sometimes you don't have a choice
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@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
Definitely true. Using sync though is an issue for things like Terminal Servers because it creates sync folders in every profile. Sometimes you don't have a choice
Sync also wouldn't be immune from a crypto-virus. All of those changes would by synced to the ownCloud server as well.
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
Not really, still LANless, but still using a mapped drive lexicon which we dislike.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
Not really, still LANless, but still using a mapped drive lexicon which we dislike.
What would be ML compliant in this situation?
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@coliver said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
Definitely true. Using sync though is an issue for things like Terminal Servers because it creates sync folders in every profile. Sometimes you don't have a choice
Sync also wouldn't be immune from a crypto-virus. All of those changes would by synced to the ownCloud server as well.
Excellent point
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@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
Not really, still LANless, but still using a mapped drive lexicon which we dislike.
What would be ML compliant in this situation?
Things that don't exist
In an ideal world the application would connect natively to the storage and no other interaction would be needed. If all things were perfect, the end users would never need to "think about files." -
@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
Not really, still LANless, but still using a mapped drive lexicon which we dislike.
What would be ML compliant in this situation?
Things that don't exist
In an ideal world the application would connect natively to the storage and no other interaction would be needed. If all things were perfect, the end users would never need to "think about files."Moving to a Sharepoint online-esque system would be the closest in my mind. The core Office Apps will natively talk to the back end without any additional work. I think both Alfresco and Confluence also have the ability to take advantage of this functionality.
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
If you are wanting to get away from Drive Mapping, in this scenario, you will have to change the process that your end-users use, if there are no working Office plugins...
I have not tested this... but there may be a way to integrate ownCloud into (locally installed) Office, just like ODfB, and Sharepoint... Example (https://forum.owncloud.org/viewtopic.php?t=10820).
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
Not really, still LANless, but still using a mapped drive lexicon which we dislike.
You're right, I realized it was still LANless.
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I have to look up SSL certification on CentOS 7 now. I've only ever done it on our Barracuda SSL VPN which was just an upload. Here we go
