Installing ownCloud 9 on CentOS 7
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@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
That would, indeed, be awesome.
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
You would have to mount it as a filesystem, I think. Or they might see it as a network share.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
You would have to mount it as a filesystem, I think. Or they might see it as a network share.
This
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server. Granted not as safe as say Sharepoint or some other method but with built in versioning you can restore from the ownCloud interface instead of a backup.
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
Definitely true. Using sync though is an issue for things like Terminal Servers because it creates sync folders in every profile. Sometimes you don't have a choice
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@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
Definitely true. Using sync though is an issue for things like Terminal Servers because it creates sync folders in every profile. Sometimes you don't have a choice
Sync also wouldn't be immune from a crypto-virus. All of those changes would by synced to the ownCloud server as well.
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
Not really, still LANless, but still using a mapped drive lexicon which we dislike.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
Not really, still LANless, but still using a mapped drive lexicon which we dislike.
What would be ML compliant in this situation?
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@coliver said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
Definitely true. Using sync though is an issue for things like Terminal Servers because it creates sync folders in every profile. Sometimes you don't have a choice
Sync also wouldn't be immune from a crypto-virus. All of those changes would by synced to the ownCloud server as well.
Excellent point
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@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
Not really, still LANless, but still using a mapped drive lexicon which we dislike.
What would be ML compliant in this situation?
Things that don't exist
In an ideal world the application would connect natively to the storage and no other interaction would be needed. If all things were perfect, the end users would never need to "think about files." -
@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
Not really, still LANless, but still using a mapped drive lexicon which we dislike.
What would be ML compliant in this situation?
Things that don't exist
In an ideal world the application would connect natively to the storage and no other interaction would be needed. If all things were perfect, the end users would never need to "think about files."Moving to a Sharepoint online-esque system would be the closest in my mind. The core Office Apps will natively talk to the back end without any additional work. I think both Alfresco and Confluence also have the ability to take advantage of this functionality.
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
If you are wanting to get away from Drive Mapping, in this scenario, you will have to change the process that your end-users use, if there are no working Office plugins...
I have not tested this... but there may be a way to integrate ownCloud into (locally installed) Office, just like ODfB, and Sharepoint... Example (https://forum.owncloud.org/viewtopic.php?t=10820).
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.
Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?
You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.
How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?
Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.
That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.
Not really, still LANless, but still using a mapped drive lexicon which we dislike.
You're right, I realized it was still LANless.
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I have to look up SSL certification on CentOS 7 now. I've only ever done it on our Barracuda SSL VPN which was just an upload. Here we go
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@wirestyle22 said:
I have to look up SSL certification on CentOS 7 now. I've only ever done it on our Barracuda SSL VPN which was just an upload. Here we go
SSL for what? SSL is not a generic thing for an OS. What do you want to put SSL on?
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@wirestyle22 said:
I have to look up SSL certification on CentOS 7 now. I've only ever done it on our Barracuda SSL VPN which was just an upload. Here we go
I think you need to look up SSL for Apache if you are trying to encrypt ownCloud. I think someone has a guide on here somewhere about it.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
I have to look up SSL certification on CentOS 7 now. I've only ever done it on our Barracuda SSL VPN which was just an upload. Here we go
SSL for what? SSL is not a generic thing for an OS. What do you want to put SSL on?
Apache, sorry!
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@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
I have to look up SSL certification on CentOS 7 now. I've only ever done it on our Barracuda SSL VPN which was just an upload. Here we go
SSL for what? SSL is not a generic thing for an OS. What do you want to put SSL on?
Apache, sorry!
Apache has LetsEncrypt scripts that make it easy.
