Managed Switches
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@Dashrender said:
Non managed switches are often faster than managed one, just an FYI.
All other things being equal, of course. The management introduces overhead.
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@Dashrender said:
@alex.olynyk said:
@Dashrender Yes, how will one make my life easier?
?? what do you mean? How do they make your life easier?
Do you need VLAN? Do you need Layer 3 routing?
It's not management that brings any of those features. Our non-managed switches have always had those features. VLAN, L3, trunking, mirroring, monitoring, per port security, 802.1x... all in non-managed.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@alex.olynyk said:
@Dashrender Yes, how will one make my life easier?
?? what do you mean? How do they make your life easier?
Do you need VLAN? Do you need Layer 3 routing?
It's not management that brings any of those features. Our non-managed switches have always had those features. VLAN, L3, trunking, mirroring, monitoring, per port security, 802.1x... all in non-managed.
Now you are talking about "smart" switches which is a third class of switch. I was under the understanding that this conversation was including those under managed as they have basic managed capabilities.
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@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@alex.olynyk said:
@Dashrender Yes, how will one make my life easier?
?? what do you mean? How do they make your life easier?
Do you need VLAN? Do you need Layer 3 routing?
It's not management that brings any of those features. Our non-managed switches have always had those features. VLAN, L3, trunking, mirroring, monitoring, per port security, 802.1x... all in non-managed.
Now you are talking about "smart" switches which is a third class of switch. I was under the understanding that this conversation was including those under managed as they have basic managed capabilities.
Oh, perhaps it is. In most product lines that I have seen, or are familiar with maybe I should say, there are three classes and managed means only the one, not two of them.
For example, I know that Netgear is very clear on unmanaged, smart and managed as three categories. Smart isn't considered managed or unmanaged as a category. Obviously, you CAN manage it, so as an English language term, it is managed. As a switching term, it is not. So a bit confusing, there.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@alex.olynyk said:
@Dashrender Yes, how will one make my life easier?
?? what do you mean? How do they make your life easier?
Do you need VLAN? Do you need Layer 3 routing?
It's not management that brings any of those features. Our non-managed switches have always had those features. VLAN, L3, trunking, mirroring, monitoring, per port security, 802.1x... all in non-managed.
Now you are talking about "smart" switches which is a third class of switch. I was under the understanding that this conversation was including those under managed as they have basic managed capabilities.
Oh, perhaps it is. In most product lines that I have seen, or are familiar with maybe I should say, there are three classes and managed means only the one, not two of them.
For example, I know that Netgear is very clear on unmanaged, smart and managed as three categories. Smart isn't considered managed or unmanaged as a category. Obviously, you CAN manage it, so as an English language term, it is managed. As a switching term, it is not. So a bit confusing, there.
Yeah I was working from the same place as Scott. Three levels, the OP was asking only about the top most.
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Thanks to everyone who gave input. I think we will stay with unmanaged for now.
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The logging capabilities of smart switches are really nice to have. A bit more expensive then unmanaged but you get some statistics from them that could be helpful in troubleshooting network related issues.
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@alex.olynyk said:
Thanks to everyone who gave input. I think we will stay with unmanaged for now.
Unmanaged are okay. But the thread, I think, should have pointed you to Smart switches for many purposes. Smart are generally only a tiny bit more expensive than Unmanaged but give you 95% of the capabilities of managed.
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@scottalanmiller It did. I am also looking at Smart Switches. Thank you.
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@alex.olynyk said:
@scottalanmiller It did. I am also looking at Smart Switches. Thank you.
It's a good middle ground price wise. We use all smart switches currently.
