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    Are There Reasonable Multi-Master Over the WAN Storage Options?

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      How does a regional master setup work? If someone is editing in the master region, and someone is editing it in a non master at the same time, .....

      It wouldn't let them, same as if they were both local. It needs to lock the files as being open.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said:

        What kinds of files are we talking about there? I'm guessing not Office type documents as something like SharePoint would solve this problem.

        No, bigger ones like engineering files.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          If the size is keeping things from going to SharePoint...

          Centralized hosting has been tested and is not fast enough for their use case.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Dashrender said:

            If the size is keeping things from going to SharePoint...

            Centralized hosting has been tested and is not fast enough for their use case.

            Yeah - I assumed that had to be the case.

            Definitely curious how you solve this?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              My take on it is... you don't. It's not a reasonable thing to attempt to do. You make people change their processes.

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                My take on it is... you don't. It's not a reasonable thing to attempt to do. You make people change their processes.

                Where are the sites located?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                  last edited by

                  @wirestyle22 said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  My take on it is... you don't. It's not a reasonable thing to attempt to do. You make people change their processes.

                  Where are the sites located?

                  UK, France and Malaysia. I think.

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                  • Reid CooperR
                    Reid Cooper
                    last edited by

                    That just seems like a bad idea. If the WAN fails, you are going to have issues with different file versions.

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by travisdh1

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      What kinds of files are we talking about there? I'm guessing not Office type documents as something like SharePoint would solve this problem.

                      No, bigger ones like engineering files.

                      With the size of those files, and only 50mbps, I doubt that's going to cut it for what they want to do. Back in the late 1990 and early 2000 all the engineering software packages had integrated file management options. One of those with a WAN between sites. I would mean waiting a bit when someone checks out a file that's not local, but you wouldn't have to sync everything over the slow WAN connection.

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      If the size is keeping things from going to SharePoint...

                      Centralized hosting has been tested and is not fast enough for their use case.

                      What makes them think self-hosting on the same connections is somehow faster? It's magic!

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        At least self hosting, with the local connection, the local users will get local LAN speeds as long as there is no locking.

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre
                          last edited by

                          Why not go with Self-Hosting and replicated off-site?

                          If somebody in France needs access to a file from Malaysia, then they should connect to the Malaysia file server via <insert your method here> to access the files.

                          Like @scottalanmiller -- sometimes you have to change the processes.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @dafyre
                            last edited by

                            @dafyre said:

                            Why not go with Self-Hosting and replicated off-site?

                            If somebody in France needs access to a file from Malaysia, then they should connect to the Malaysia file server via <insert your method here> to access the files.

                            Like @scottalanmiller -- sometimes you have to change the processes.

                            That's what I am thinking. I want to look at using Exablox, one at each site. Each site with their own share of which they are the master that then replicates to the other sites.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @dafyre
                              last edited by

                              @dafyre said:

                              Why not go with Self-Hosting and replicated off-site?

                              If somebody in France needs access to a file from Malaysia, then they should connect to the Malaysia file server via <insert your method here> to access the files.

                              Like @scottalanmiller -- sometimes you have to change the processes.

                              That is the proposed solution from @scottalanmiller. It is not the solution they want though.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Although I've only submitted that recommendation to @StefUk so it might be that with a talk with the business that they will understand and be ready to go that route.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @dafyre said:

                                  Why not go with Self-Hosting and replicated off-site?

                                  If somebody in France needs access to a file from Malaysia, then they should connect to the Malaysia file server via <insert your method here> to access the files.

                                  Like @scottalanmiller -- sometimes you have to change the processes.

                                  That's what I am thinking. I want to look at using Exablox, one at each site. Each site with their own share of which they are the master that then replicates to the other sites.

                                  Unless I missed it, we still haven't been told how large the files are. Is it better to deal with possible sync issues, or how about using RDS instead? If you really need to work on a file at relative performance, an RDS server in each location that users can share might be a better option.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    RDS to a central location with VDI is being proposed as a long term solution, but not something that they are prepared to deal with in the short term.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      How does using Exablox solve a file versioning problem? What is the solution for that specific problem, assuming you can't force a lock out to all nodes?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        How does using Exablox solve a file versioning problem?

                                        Single site masters.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          RDS to a central location with VDI is being proposed as a long term solution, but not something that they are prepared to deal with in the short term.

                                          Just before reading this, that is exactly where my mind leapt. Centralize the whole thing - RDS to a box near that storage pool. Problem solved.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            How does using Exablox solve a file versioning problem?

                                            Single site masters.

                                            Please provide more details.

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