When do we do away with Hardware RAID
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So lets just imagine an infrastructure that has fault tolerant power system to run their systems.
Everything from the Servers to the motion activated hand dryers.
This business is looking to do a full system refresh from the ground up. You @scottalanmiller have been asked to design the system to reduce capex as much as possible for this project.
How / what would you recommend? What techinical hurdles would the IT Team have to overcome in the event of a failed array. Single disks failures in a Software Array deployment.
I'm just trying to think up possible use cases of an all Software RAID scenario. Hardware RAID has been tried and tested, it works, it's "simple to support" in comparison to Software RAID.
Things of critical importance would be Array Performance.
Array recoverability
capex for the project
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@DustinB3403 said:
I'm just trying to think up possible use cases of an all Software RAID scenario. Hardware RAID has been tried and tested, it works, it's "simple to support" in comparison to Software RAID.
Not as tried and tested as software RAID. Software RAID is older (everything happens there first) and has been used in the big enterprise far more as all high end systems are and always have been software RAID (Sparc, Integrity / Itanium, SuperDome, VMS, AIX, HP-UX, IRIX, zOS, System i, etc.)
Hardware RAID for the longest time was for the tiny end of the SMB only. It is only quite recently that hardware RAID has been considered adequate for mid-end processing loads and it is almost exclusively from the AMD64 servers pushing their way into bigger and bigger roles, not from hardware RAID earning its way up.
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@DustinB3403 said:
How / what would you recommend? What techinical hurdles would the IT Team have to overcome in the event of a failed array.
They would need to have systems administration resources available to do the drive swaps from the logical side rather than having only bench staff in the data center. You could never do the swap using just "remote hands", it requires active coordination with the person(s) controlling the RAID system who will deactive the drive and activate the new one.
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So you are saying that software raid does not support
hotblind swap? -
@dafyre I don't think it can.
There is no way that the hardware could prepare for a disk being ejected live without hardware to manage it that.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@dafyre I don't think it can.
There is no way that the hardware could prepare for a disk being ejected live without hardware to manage it that.
The idea would be that the hardware supports hot swap. As I seem to remember @scottalanmiller mentioning recently that pretty much any business class server should support hot swap at a minimum.
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Here is the definition.
http://mangolassi.it/topic/6816/hot-swap-vs-blind-swap/2
Now which applies to MDADM RAID? If Cold swapping is the only way of swapping drives, then I guess it immediately excludes it from any Enterprise or even business solution.
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@dafyre said:
So you are saying that software raid does not support
hotblind swap?Some do, but it is super rare. I've never seen it outside of a NAS.
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@dafyre said:
@DustinB3403 said:
@dafyre I don't think it can.
There is no way that the hardware could prepare for a disk being ejected live without hardware to manage it that.
The idea would be that the hardware supports hot swap. As I seem to remember @scottalanmiller mentioning recently that pretty much any business class server should support hot swap at a minimum.
Hot swap any business class RAID will handle. But blind swap, not so much.
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@DustinB3403 said:
Here is the definition.
http://mangolassi.it/topic/6816/hot-swap-vs-blind-swap/2
Now which applies to MDADM RAID? If Cold swapping is the only way of swapping drives, then I guess it immediately excludes it from any Enterprise or even business solution.
MD RAID (MDADM is the management utility for MD RAID) is hot swap, of course, and some vendors like ReadyNAS and Synology add their own extensions to add blind swapping. No one would even discuss it if it wasn't hot swap.
