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@Dashrender said:
You're absolutely right - the fly in this ointment is a lot of people I run into bought into iTunes nearly a decade ago. As such they are pretty entrenched and don't want to move somewhere else.
Back when it was DRM and useless. I cannot believe they got a single customer, it makes me sad for humanity. The worst music service the world has ever known.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Why would that EVER lead you to iTunes? That makes zero sense to me. I want that too and iTunes does not do that for me. Amazon, however, does. So, unless there is something huge that I don't understand, this is misconceptions leading to bad decisions. Doesn't iTunes stop that, rather than fixing it?
Right now Apple Music is the best deal for families. $15 for up to 6 people. Google Play is similar, but can only be set up using an Android device. So for families like mine with all Apple devices, if we want Apple Music, we have to use iTunes to get it. Unless there is some other way I do not know about.
What kind of deal is that? I mean... what do you get? What are you paying for?
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Why would that EVER lead you to iTunes? That makes zero sense to me. I want that too and iTunes does not do that for me. Amazon, however, does. So, unless there is something huge that I don't understand, this is misconceptions leading to bad decisions. Doesn't iTunes stop that, rather than fixing it?
Right now Apple Music is the best deal for families. $15 for up to 6 people. Google Play is similar, but can only be set up using an Android device. So for families like mine with all Apple devices, if we want Apple Music, we have to use iTunes to get it. Unless there is some other way I do not know about.
Get a prime membership for less then that and add several users (I don't remember the amount) to listen to as much music as you want.
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@scottalanmiller said:
What kind of deal is that? I mean... what do you get? What are you paying for?
Streaming music for up to 6 people in your family.
I love streaming music.
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
Doesn't Amazon now do DRM free music? That's where you should recommend they purchase from.
Who knows they burned any bridges with iTunes and customers who liked music or wanted things to work a decade ago.
Uh? What? Amazon doesn't do iTunes... Amazon has a fairly extensive media marketplace and tons of DRM free music (I just looked).
Sorry, for some reason I thought that you had said Apple.
Amazon has ALWAYS been DRM free, from day one. It's the only sensible music service. I can't believe people even talk about anyone else. Amazon's music is so good I've never seen competition for it. AND they let you upload your music, so it is the only one that meets the stated requirements of everything in one place because it is the only one that lets you merge onto it. And it works with every device, too. And you can just download your music, so literally works everywhere. You own the music, none of these weird issues that every other service has.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
What kind of deal is that? I mean... what do you get? What are you paying for?
Streaming music for up to 6 people in your family.
I love streaming music.
Steaming what music? I get streaming from Amazon for free to unlimited devices, and unlimited kinds of devices.
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@coliver said:
Get a prime membership for less then that and add several users (I don't remember the amount) to listen to as much music as you want.
Nowhere near the same library size. I think it is something like 1 million versus 30 million.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Can't you play music you've purchased in the iTunes store through the web interface?
why do you need a local copy? Just stream?What is this web interface you speak of?
Looks like I have to stand corrected - there isn't one. that sucks!
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@Dashrender said:
@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Can't you play music you've purchased in the iTunes store through the web interface?
why do you need a local copy? Just stream?What is this web interface you speak of?
Looks like I have to stand corrected - there isn't one. that sucks!
Seriously, who would use Apple for music? It's like oil and water.
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@BRRABill said:
@coliver said:
Get a prime membership for less then that and add several users (I don't remember the amount) to listen to as much music as you want.
Nowhere near the same library size. I think it is something like 1 million versus 30 million.
Are you comparing only thee paid library from one and the free from the other?
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@scottalanmiller said:
Are you comparing only thee paid library from one and the free from the other?
Yes, because the end goal is to get the music I want, and I am willing to pay for it.
I wish Amazon had a paid service similar to Apple Music/Google Play/Rhapsody.
It would be my new love.
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I didn't know you could also upload your stuff to Amazon Music.
Since I buy all my stuff from there, that might make the most sense for me. I've recently started uploading everything to Google Play.
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@BRRABill said:
@coliver said:
Get a prime membership for less then that and add several users (I don't remember the amount) to listen to as much music as you want.
Nowhere near the same library size. I think it is something like 1 million versus 30 million.
Is that right?
With Apple streaming you get access to 30 Million and with Amazon Prime you only get access to 1 Million?
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@BRRABill said:
I didn't know you could also upload your stuff to Amazon Music.
Since I buy all my stuff from there, that might make the most sense for me. I've recently started uploading everything to Google Play.
I'm not sure in either case you are actually uploading anything - from what I read, they see what song it it you are uploading and then just add the in cloud version to your account.. now you can stream it anytime you want.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
If they don't have existing Windows experience then ANY logic for using Windows now has to evaporate (except for maybe gaming.) But even coming from Windows, Mint is generally easier.
Apparently they have been using Windows for years, but through AOL or something.
I think a good pop-up blocker as @RojoLoco suggested would be key here.
And education, as I mentioned.
After reading that, all I could think of was....
All you can do is educate, educate, educate.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Are you comparing only thee paid library from one and the free from the other?
Yes, because the end goal is to get the music I want, and I am willing to pay for it.
I wish Amazon had a paid service similar to Apple Music/Google Play/Rhapsody.
It would be my new love.
but if you were willing ot pay for it, Amazon's service is so much bigger than you are looking at.
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@Dashrender said:
I'm not sure in either case you are actually uploading anything - from what I read, they see what song it it you are uploading and then just add the in cloud version to your account.. now you can stream it anytime you want.
Right. Though it appears on Google Play it has been actually uploading my stuff, though I can't tell.
For example, I had an older MP3 album in 128bitrate. It has that version in my library.
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@Dashrender said:
@BRRABill said:
I didn't know you could also upload your stuff to Amazon Music.
Since I buy all my stuff from there, that might make the most sense for me. I've recently started uploading everything to Google Play.
I'm not sure in either case you are actually uploading anything - from what I read, they see what song it it you are uploading and then just add the in cloud version to your account.. now you can stream it anytime you want.
That's just dedupe, you can upload yourself singing a song if you want. There is no way that they already have that there.
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Again the biggest issue people who have been doing it for any amount of time is - Moving.
People don't want to move to something new, especially if they have to somehow move their old collection of owned stuff to a new service.
Here's a great example.
I buy all of my movies today through Vudu. If Vudu goes tits up, I'm screwed.If another service that's better than Vudu comes along, I'll be forced to either use two service or rebuy all of my movies on the new service (who wants to do that?).
