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      Dashrender @Jason
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      @Jason said:

      These days with has cheap as cloud hosts are I don't think it's worth the costs of a home setup.

      yeah, maybe. The OP says he wants 20 VMs. At $5/m/VM that's $100 a month. 4 months and this server is paid for (not counting any additional disk he adds, or power costs), and that's assuming he can manage on the lowest VMs at DO available.

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        scottalanmiller
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        For product it is hard to beat the big cloud providers. But for a lab there is still a ton of wiggle room.

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          coliver @Jason
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          @Jason said:

          These days with has cheap as cloud hosts are I don't think it's worth the costs of a home setup.

          I don't know my home lab probably costs me 30-40$ a year in power. I run ~15 VMs at a given time (fewer now). Plus I have the flexibility to assign as many resources as I want to those VMs without having to pay more money.

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            scottalanmiller
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            My home labs always costed way more than that in power.

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              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              My home labs always costed way more than that in power.

              Well, you lived in expensive areas and probably had 10x more servers/.

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                scottalanmiller
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                This was like two. In rural Upstate NY which is the same region that @coliver is in.

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                  Jason Banned @coliver
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                  @coliver said:

                  @Jason said:

                  These days with has cheap as cloud hosts are I don't think it's worth the costs of a home setup.

                  I don't know my home lab probably costs me 30-40$ a year in power. I run ~15 VMs at a given time (fewer now). Plus I have the flexibility to assign as many resources as I want to those VMs without having to pay more money.

                  Power is what I was referring to. Some cloud ones only charge you when powered on

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                    coliver @Jason
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                    @Jason said:

                    @coliver said:

                    @Jason said:

                    These days with has cheap as cloud hosts are I don't think it's worth the costs of a home setup.

                    I don't know my home lab probably costs me 30-40$ a year in power. I run ~15 VMs at a given time (fewer now). Plus I have the flexibility to assign as many resources as I want to those VMs without having to pay more money.

                    Power is what I was referring to. Some cloud ones only charge you when powered on

                    Right... my server runs 24/7... which would be very costly if I hosted it in the cloud.

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                      coliver @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      My home labs always costed way more than that in power.

                      One whitebox server with a really lightweight processor and RAM. The spinning rust is what chews up all the power.

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                        coliver @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        My home labs always costed way more than that in power.

                        Well, you lived in expensive areas and probably had 10x more servers/.

                        Power is fairly expensive around here. I think a bit above the national average.

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                          scottalanmiller @Jason
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                          @Jason said:

                          @coliver said:

                          @Jason said:

                          These days with has cheap as cloud hosts are I don't think it's worth the costs of a home setup.

                          I don't know my home lab probably costs me 30-40$ a year in power. I run ~15 VMs at a given time (fewer now). Plus I have the flexibility to assign as many resources as I want to those VMs without having to pay more money.

                          Power is what I was referring to. Some cloud ones only charge you when powered on

                          No major cloud does that. I'm not aware of any that do that, actually. They all (AFAIK) charge as long as the VM exists, powered on or not.

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                            RamblingBiped
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                            It was suggested that it is worthwhile to grab a server with the H700 raid controller over the PERC6i. Would this build be a better value then?
                            http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R710-2x-E5620-2-4GHz-Quad-72GB-H700-DVD-iDRAC6-2x-power-8x-trays-/221920398089?hash=item33ab7c8b09
                            And if so what drives would you suggest buying since this comes without storage.

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                              scottalanmiller
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                              H700 is a nice upgrade option.

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                                BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                No major cloud does that. I'm not aware of any that do that, actually. They all (AFAIK) charge as long as the VM exists, powered on or not.

                                After we discussed that the other day, I found out the Azure does not bill in the stopped (de-allocated) status.

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                                  RamblingBiped @RamblingBiped
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                                  Thoughts on using 4 of these drives and saving a little cash? I don't need uber performance by any means, do you think these would be adequate?

                                  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236342

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                                    Jason Banned @BRRABill
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                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    No major cloud does that. I'm not aware of any that do that, actually. They all (AFAIK) charge as long as the VM exists, powered on or not.

                                    After we discussed that the other day, I found out the Azure does not bill in the stopped (de-allocated) status

                                    Yep azure does lots of cool things. We even have a direct gigabit uplink to Azure.

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                                      BRRABill @Jason
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                                      @Jason said:

                                      @BRRABill said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      No major cloud does that. I'm not aware of any that do that, actually. They all (AFAIK) charge as long as the VM exists, powered on or not.

                                      After we discussed that the other day, I found out the Azure does not bill in the stopped (de-allocated) status

                                      Yep azure does lots of cool things. We even have a direct gigabit uplink to Azure.

                                      @scottalanmiller miller and I were discussing "pay as you go" the other day. I wonder if other cloud providers work the same way.

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                                        Jason Banned
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                                        @RamblingBiped said:

                                        Thoughts on using 4 of these drives and saving a little cash? I don't need uber performance by any means, do you think these would be adequate?

                                        http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236342

                                        No Idea. WD redid their lines recently. I'd really just pickup a lot of used drives for a lab. You can find 10x 1TB deals on eBay sometimes for $200

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                                          RamblingBiped @Jason
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                                          @Jason Good call, I don't know why that didn't initially occur to me... They have the 1TB drives for $34~, that seems reasonable enough for what I'm doing; and they seem to be readily available from numerous sources.

                                          Thanks!

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                                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                            @BRRABill said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            No major cloud does that. I'm not aware of any that do that, actually. They all (AFAIK) charge as long as the VM exists, powered on or not.

                                            After we discussed that the other day, I found out the Azure does not bill in the stopped (de-allocated) status.

                                            It DEFINITELY bills when stopped. It does NOT bill when deleted. Deleted is obviously stopped, saying stopped implies that it still exists.

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