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    • MattSpellerM
      MattSpeller
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      More or less perfect hardware but I think if you shop around you might get a better deal. I often see them with much higher end cpus for less dollars.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        Are you developing for Windows? If not, why manage this from a Windows 10 machine, instead of some Linux option?

        If you have Windows around, it works better, sadly. XenCenter is Windows only, still.

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        • RamblingBipedR
          RamblingBiped @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender Cuz I plan on playing with XenOrchestra once I have time to set it up. I already have XenCenter installed for testing purposes. And I have never used XenServer or XenCenter, so it will be a learning experience.

          I've been using Linux for the last couple of years, so I'm shifting back to Windows to (eventually) try to pick up some powershell to complement what BASH experience I have. I've got a decent handle on using virsh, qemu-img, and virt-manager with KVM; I thought I'd take a slightly different approace to round things out with Xen.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            I am very interested in hearing about XenOrchestra.

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            • J
              Jason Banned
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              These days with has cheap as cloud hosts are I don't think it's worth the costs of a home setup.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @Jason
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                @Jason said:

                These days with has cheap as cloud hosts are I don't think it's worth the costs of a home setup.

                yeah, maybe. The OP says he wants 20 VMs. At $5/m/VM that's $100 a month. 4 months and this server is paid for (not counting any additional disk he adds, or power costs), and that's assuming he can manage on the lowest VMs at DO available.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  For product it is hard to beat the big cloud providers. But for a lab there is still a ton of wiggle room.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @Jason
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                    @Jason said:

                    These days with has cheap as cloud hosts are I don't think it's worth the costs of a home setup.

                    I don't know my home lab probably costs me 30-40$ a year in power. I run ~15 VMs at a given time (fewer now). Plus I have the flexibility to assign as many resources as I want to those VMs without having to pay more money.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      My home labs always costed way more than that in power.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        My home labs always costed way more than that in power.

                        Well, you lived in expensive areas and probably had 10x more servers/.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          This was like two. In rural Upstate NY which is the same region that @coliver is in.

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                            Jason Banned @coliver
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                            @coliver said:

                            @Jason said:

                            These days with has cheap as cloud hosts are I don't think it's worth the costs of a home setup.

                            I don't know my home lab probably costs me 30-40$ a year in power. I run ~15 VMs at a given time (fewer now). Plus I have the flexibility to assign as many resources as I want to those VMs without having to pay more money.

                            Power is what I was referring to. Some cloud ones only charge you when powered on

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @Jason
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                              @Jason said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @Jason said:

                              These days with has cheap as cloud hosts are I don't think it's worth the costs of a home setup.

                              I don't know my home lab probably costs me 30-40$ a year in power. I run ~15 VMs at a given time (fewer now). Plus I have the flexibility to assign as many resources as I want to those VMs without having to pay more money.

                              Power is what I was referring to. Some cloud ones only charge you when powered on

                              Right... my server runs 24/7... which would be very costly if I hosted it in the cloud.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                My home labs always costed way more than that in power.

                                One whitebox server with a really lightweight processor and RAM. The spinning rust is what chews up all the power.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  My home labs always costed way more than that in power.

                                  Well, you lived in expensive areas and probably had 10x more servers/.

                                  Power is fairly expensive around here. I think a bit above the national average.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Jason
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                                    @Jason said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @Jason said:

                                    These days with has cheap as cloud hosts are I don't think it's worth the costs of a home setup.

                                    I don't know my home lab probably costs me 30-40$ a year in power. I run ~15 VMs at a given time (fewer now). Plus I have the flexibility to assign as many resources as I want to those VMs without having to pay more money.

                                    Power is what I was referring to. Some cloud ones only charge you when powered on

                                    No major cloud does that. I'm not aware of any that do that, actually. They all (AFAIK) charge as long as the VM exists, powered on or not.

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                                    • RamblingBipedR
                                      RamblingBiped
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                                      It was suggested that it is worthwhile to grab a server with the H700 raid controller over the PERC6i. Would this build be a better value then?
                                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R710-2x-E5620-2-4GHz-Quad-72GB-H700-DVD-iDRAC6-2x-power-8x-trays-/221920398089?hash=item33ab7c8b09
                                      And if so what drives would you suggest buying since this comes without storage.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        H700 is a nice upgrade option.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          No major cloud does that. I'm not aware of any that do that, actually. They all (AFAIK) charge as long as the VM exists, powered on or not.

                                          After we discussed that the other day, I found out the Azure does not bill in the stopped (de-allocated) status.

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                                          • RamblingBipedR
                                            RamblingBiped @RamblingBiped
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                                            Thoughts on using 4 of these drives and saving a little cash? I don't need uber performance by any means, do you think these would be adequate?

                                            http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236342

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